The 2025 Bum Thread

Honestly a bit surprised I am being actively chased by several companies, having a good reputation in a small industry pays off, going to have to make a decision soon on what I'm gonna do. Was leaning towards contracting but being approached for remote salaried roles. Hmm.
 
Wish I was in that situation, I get recruiters reach out then send my stuff across and get ghosted. :cry: I'm learning now I think the trick is upskill enough outside of work and then just put keywords onto your CV and claim you used it at your job, given massive breadth of software that's only way through. Not like a lot of these tools take a mountain to learn once you learn to program/think programatically.
 
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Message out of the blue from someone I've worked with. He's having dinner with another guy I've worked with and they've had enough of the job market and looking to start something - was I interested. Short answer yes. No idea what yet but that can be sorted as we go along.

Only thing with the current stock market, the private funding (VC) market tends to lag by 6 months or so.. so it's likely to get tough to get funding pre-seed.
 
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I had no luck before holiday. I got 1 interview in 20 applications. 2 years ago that would be 1 in 2.

Will try to get any job when I'm back off holiday. Even super market if it comes to that. My skillet has lost so much value in past 24 months it's taken my by surprise.
I think I'll be taking a 10k pay cut, and probably can't expect WFH. Which is an even bigger pay cut

Dreading going home to have to deal with all that. Think I need to escape IT completely. But to what? That's still the question.
 
413x said:
Will try to get any job when I'm back off holiday. Even super market if it comes to that. My skillet has lost so much value in past 24 months it's taken my by surprise.
I think I'll be taking a 10k pay cut, and probably can't expect WFH. Which is an even bigger pay cut
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The job market in IT has gone to the dogs right now, too many people chasing too few jobs. Also, don't underestimate how much difference being in a current job makes to how easy it is to get interviews. IMO, it's less about skillset and more about the state of the job market. Keep plugging away, you'll find something.
 
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The job market in IT has gone to the dogs right now, too many people chasing too few jobs. Also, don't underestimate how much difference being in a current job makes to how easy it is to get interviews. IMO, it's less about skillset and more about the state of the job market. Keep plugging away, you'll find something.
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Yeah it's pretty grim. I'm expecting to drop from 55k to 40-45k.
Thank goodness didn't get a bigger mortgage, cat loan etcwith the salary jump
 
Mr Jack said:
The job market in IT has gone to the dogs right now, too many people chasing too few jobs. Also, don't underestimate how much difference being in a current job makes to how easy it is to get interviews. IMO, it's less about skillset and more about the state of the job market. Keep plugging away, you'll find something.
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It's like the early 2000's again. Too many wannabes flooding the market since Covid overhiring, on top of Uni newly grads in IT related fields.

Once they have been cleared then the IT market will be better again.
 
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413x said:
I had no luck before holiday. I got 1 interview in 20 applications. 2 years ago that would be 1 in 2.

Will try to get any job when I'm back off holiday. Even super market if it comes to that. My skillet has lost so much value in past 24 months it's taken my by surprise.
I think I'll be taking a 10k pay cut, and probably can't expect WFH. Which is an even bigger pay cut

Dreading going home to have to deal with all that. Think I need to escape IT completely. But to what? That's still the question.
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Nice to at least realise it's not just me.

But my kicker is probably lack of years of experience, I made a joke earlier in this thread about trades but it's actually starting to become a serious contender. Reason is someone I know of he's late 20's, did uni degree earlier in life then made switch to electrician and hear he's really happy with his choice.

Grass is always greener and all that, but I do prefer working with my hands, my mind is good for coding but I just don't think I like the industry itself much. Money isn't really everything to me as I live low cost anyway, sure it's nice to be paid more but if it comes with a load of headache I don't see it as worth it.
 
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413x said:
I had no luck before holiday. I got 1 interview in 20 applications. 2 years ago that would be 1 in 2.

Will try to get any job when I'm back off holiday. Even super market if it comes to that. My skillet has lost so much value in past 24 months it's taken my by surprise.
I think I'll be taking a 10k pay cut, and probably can't expect WFH. Which is an even bigger pay cut

Dreading going home to have to deal with all that. Think I need to escape IT completely. But to what? That's still the question.
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No luck from direct applications, no noise from recruiters either. With all the global noise I really suspect there's a lack of business confidence leading to reduced investment. Couple that being a white male over 50.. and it seems you don't fit into the business HR model but instead contract or make your own company seems to be the only way (real contracts seem thinner on the ground too). It's not just me that's noticed that - more AI competition in the job hunt compound things.

I have a role I'm applying for that requires a complete CV rewrite to focus, a 500 word personal statement, and still requires a technical python test even though it's not traditionally a coding role. Dumb thing is my experience is bang on what they want but I hate python as a language!
 
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NickK said:
No luck from direct applications, no noise from recruiters either. With all the global noise I really suspect there's a lack of business confidence leading to reduced investment. Couple that being a white male over 50.. and it seems you don't fit into the business HR model but instead contract or make your own company seems to be the only way (real contracts seem thinner on the ground too). It's not just me that's noticed that - more AI competition in the job hunt compound things.

I have a role I'm applying for that requires a complete CV rewrite to focus, a 500 word personal statement, and still requires a technical python test even though it's not traditionally a coding role. Dumb thing is my experience is bang on what they want but I hate python as a language!
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This has been going on for a while. Random stuff in job descriptions and technical tests which has nothing to do with the actual role.
 
Just did a full on personal statement for a role. It's the first time I've had to do one - usually I tailor the CV. A gov role but it's pretty aligned with my past, so it will be interesting if I get a call.

Last few days I've felt rough and bad this morning, but managed to get something down on paper this afternoon. Drs tomorrow.
 
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Message out of the blue from someone I've worked with. He's having dinner with another guy I've worked with and they've had enough of the job market and looking to start something - was I interested. Short answer yes. No idea what yet but that can be sorted as we go along.
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Did this turn out to be a bank/diamond heist?
 
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Did this turn out to be a bank/diamond heist?
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Hehe, it was an interesting call - certainly a desire todo something but I think they're looking for options of what to actually do. We're going away and having a think - I have an idea but we'll have to see.
 
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Interview yesterday went as well as it could really, especially consider I felt pretty ropey, getting over a cold. Never know who you're up against though, will find out soon enough.
 
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