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The 5800x is now a viable price/perf CPU due to the price increases of the 5600x and 5900x...
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I have 1590 open lol
screenshot please.
None of the new 5000 series CPUs really have a good price performance ratio especially when compared to Zen 2 or even Intel.
If you need more cores then the 3900X gives much more performance for around the same price as the 5800X.
If you want fast cores then the 10600k offers similar gaming performance to a 5600X for £100 less or you can get a 10700k which has a couple of extra cores for almost the same price as the 5600X and £80 less than the 5800X.
For anyone on a budget then either the 10400/3600 offer the best price performance.
Zen 3 just offers worse performance per $ than what was available a year ago so while the CPUs put out higher numbers than before the performance you're getting for your cash that has actually reduced.
If you need more cores then the 3900X gives much more performance for around the same price as the 5800X.
If you want fast cores then the 10600k offers similar gaming performance to a 5600X for £100 less or you can get a 10700k which has a couple of extra cores for almost the same price as the 5600X and £80 less than the 5800X.
For anyone on a budget then either the 10400/3600 offer the best price performance.
Zen 3 just offers worse performance per $ than what was available a year ago so while the CPUs put out higher numbers than before the performance you're getting for your cash that has actually reduced.
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In most cases, nothing requires it but you are free you leave them open while you have a gaming session.
Hell, I am now running this page https://www.gamingscan.com/how-many-cores-for-gaming/ and there is always a video running all the time - the CPU is loaded to 10%. And this is a single tab with a single video.
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It seems to me that the 5000 series hits the sweet spot between single thread and multicore performance.
If you only need one or the other, there are better options in terms of value. If you need both, I don't think it's matched is it?
If you only need one or the other, there are better options in terms of value. If you need both, I don't think it's matched is it?
With the price of the 5600x rising a futher 10% to £330 and the price of the 5900x rising a further 15% or so to £600, the 5800x has stayed at the £420 MSRP and now finally has a more rational place in the lineup in terms of price/performance.
Calculations made with https://percentagecalculator.net/
So to summarize, with the recent price increases the 5800x has improved considerably in relative value, while the 5600x is now the worst value of all of the Zen3 CPU's! The 5900x is now only slightly better value than the 5800x.
- The 5800x at £420 is now only 27% more expensive than the 5600x for 33% more cores.
- The 5800x at £420 is now 43% cheaper than the 5900x for 50% less cores.
This is a far cry from the release prices when the 5800x looked like terrible value in it's price positioning and I would assume is in large part due to the lower sales and surplus stock.
TLDR: if you want the best price/performance Zen3 gaming CPU then buy a 5800x before the price increases in line with the 5600x and 5900x.
What is the source for this price increase information? Or are we just talking about gouging here?
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I'm guessing you've never seen, used or owned any modern high end AMD CPU, because what you say might make sense on paper... but paper burns.
Going from a 12 core 3900x that scored over 7700 in CB20 to an 8 core that scores 6100ish has made absolutely no difference to windows and other apps. I can still game and steam exactly the same settings as I did with the 12 core, whilst having work VM open and a load of chrome tabs. It's made zero detrimental impact to my use. The only actual real world difference for me is gaming performance has increased.
5800x makes infinitely more sense for the vast majority of people.
The source? The 5600x and 5900x retail prices have already risen at OCUK since release as demand has increased.
Ok so it's gouging then, got it.
Call it whatever you like, it doesn't change the point that the prices of the 5600x and 5900x have risen by 10-15% while the 5800x has stayed static.
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To be fair they have raised here again, but elsewhere not so much the case. 5600x you can get for £280 when in stock which I think is a relative bargain. Even the 5800x can be had cheaper, I paid £370 for mine the other month and my friend just got his 5800x last week for £350. 5900x price seems irrelevant at the moment, they don't seem to exist outside of initial allocation lol.
In other words, i wouldn't use OCUK pricing to determine actual costs.
There is no 5600x for £280 in stock... it says in stock on the price search but when you click the link its out of stock. The cheapest in stock is £320.
This is nothing new.
I still remember when AMD took the lead with the Athlon 64 range of chips, and boy, did they charge you for it!
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That's why I said when in stock, they do come back in regularly.
Well I am going to stick to referring to general and average prices at main stores. Its only a matter if time before any store selling at such a lower than market price raises those prices.