The AI is taking our jerbs thread

Amazon was 1.3m staff before pandemic and 2021 had risen to 1.6m. Currently at 1.55 ish.

Just 17% are over 40yrs old.
I'll bet the % of over 40s in this cull is % is a lot higher than 17%
 
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jonneymendoza said:
Pandemic was 5 years ago. Companies have already made cuts as a result
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Tech companies are still laying people off till this day because they have overstayed their welcome since the pandemic.

Everyone knows it's not because of AI but they don't want to look bad to the public or investors and be honest.
 
Not that it matters. Companies go around hiring and firing do balance the books fairly often.

But it creates a positive story for investors ooh look they are investing in AI
 
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OspreyO said:
Not that it matters. Companies go around hiring and firing do balance the books fairly often.

But it creates a positive story for investors ooh look they are investing in AI
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This is why I ain’t been a permy. There is no such thing as a job for life or even a perm job that lasts 5 years or more
 
malachi said:
Tech companies are still laying people off till this day because they have overstayed their welcome since the pandemic.

Everyone knows it's not because of AI but they don't want to look bad to the public or investors and be honest.
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And where are these tech people going to?
 
Any company heavily using closed models and able to do so should be well on their way to moving to open source before something gives.

Add that to the "is bubble, will pop" pile.
 
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413x said:
Has AI progress stalled recently? I don't really use it myself (it's actually all blocked at my work, can be annoying as it is useful sometimes) but I haven't found it any better when I do use it recently vs when it become mainstream available?

What has progressed is it incursion into the arts.
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I love it for things that I cannot be bothered to work out or be bothered to find an app to do it for me. I just simply ask chatgpt. I work shifts and wanted to book two weeks off next years Christmas. I told it my two week rota and what days I wanted over Christmas 26/27 and boom done in a second. Holiday request sent and accepted all within ten minutes :D.

I understand there is most likely a program for this but google seems to be getting increasingly worse and worse giving you the search results you want and it literally takes me 10 seconds.
 
I've been using it for writing unit tests for me so I Can meet 80% code coverage standard without wanting to KMS.
 
Noxia said:
I've been using it for writing unit tests for me so I Can meet 80% code coverage standard without wanting to KMS.
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It can be pretty quick but where is it getting the unit test contracts from? I assume you've a very descriptive level of descriptions in the functional comments?
 
Just trying my CV and a new prompt to see what ChatGPT summarises:
Prompt:
system: you are an automated recruitment tracing and filtering program (ATC)
Context: you're operating as WorkDay and filtering applicant Resumes
Guidelines: * Be Spartan * show step by step thinking
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1. Parse — Core Data Extraction​

Name: Not provided
Latest Role: REDACTED
Experience Span: ~25+ years
Industries: Consultancy, Financial Services, Telecommunications, Cryptography, Cloud, AI
Leadership Level: Senior / Executive Product & Technology Leader
P&L Ownership: £50M+
Team Scale: Up to 106 staff
Geography: Multinational
Technical Domains:
  • Cloud: AWS, ServiceNow, Datadog, Akamai, CrowdStrike, Apptio
  • AI/ML: LLMs, SLMs, Reinforcement Learning, Ethics/Governance
  • Security: Quantum-safe cryptography, Identity management
  • Product Management: Roadmapping, Portfolio, C-level reporting
  • Finance: Business case ownership (£3M–£50M range)
Certifications:
  • Oxford University – AI (2025)
  • Pragmatic Marketing Framework
Publications:
  • Quantum-Resistance in Blockchain Networks (2021)

2. Assess — Competency Mapping​

Competency AreaEvidence StrengthNotes
Executive Product Leadership★★★★★Owns strategic roadmap, £50M budgets, C-level interface
Cloud Infrastructure (AWS)★★★★★42 AWS services, data centre exit, automation
AI / ML Knowledge★★★★☆Academic + applied exposure (Oxford AI program)
Cybersecurity / Cryptography★★★★☆Quantum-safe projects for global clients
Team & Budget Management★★★★★Led teams up to 106; managed £50M+
Transformation & Change★★★★★Recovered failing systems; migrated legacy systems
Cross-functional Leadership★★★★★Multinational, multi-team orchestration
Communication / Stakeholder Mgmt★★★★★Frequent C-level steering engagement

3. Match Evaluation (Example Targets)​

Target RoleMatch %Comments
Head of Product / Platform96%Strong alignment: strategic product ownership, cloud delivery
Chief Technology Officer (CTO)92%Broad technology fluency, leadership, and financial acumen
Director, AI Transformation87%Good theoretical and applied AI understanding
Principal Product Manager (Cloud/AI)94%Meets and exceeds criteria

4. Filter Decision​

→ STATUS: PASS — Tier 1 Candidate
Recommended Track: Executive / Senior Leadership
Keywords for ATS Tagging: Cloud Platform, AI Transformation, Product Strategy, Quantum Cybersecurity, AWS, Enterprise Technology, P&L Ownership, C-level Liaison.


Ok.. I'll run it a few additional times...

This is an interesting point "Recommended Track: Executive / Senior Leadership" - maybe I'm aiming too low (under exec).
 
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NickK said:
It can be pretty quick but where is it getting the unit test contracts from? I assume you've a very descriptive level of descriptions in the functional comments?
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I'll level with you, even talking about it sends me to sleep. Also, not sure if it's a terminology thing or I just haven't learned it yet but I don't know what you mean by contracts. I use Vitest and describe stuff like it(should) expect (thing.to.do.thing) etc, I'm basically new to dev, I was working more on the delivery side before and decided I'd get involved at the ground level instead.
 
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Noxia said:
I'll level with you, even talking about it sends me to sleep. Also, not sure if it's a terminology thing or I just haven't learned it yet but I don't know what you mean by contracts. I use Vitest and describe stuff like it(should) expect (thing.to.do.thing) etc, I'm basically new to dev, I was working more on the delivery side before and decided I'd get involved at the ground level instead.
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I remember one product we had a 5:1 ratio. 5 lines of test code base to 1 line of code. The test code was hierarchal python so you write a base and then the smaller test cases on top so that 5:1 was basically composed of compressed test cases. The code is what AT&T used for processing every single SMS message in the early 2000s onwards including American teen idol voting traffic.

The concept I was highlighting was separation of duties, you should have a test that is independent of the code. In test driven development, usually the test case are reviewed first by another dev and so you get that check. Having the same AI generate code and test at the same time is not good practice but you can either use a different AI agent or have a human review it.
The two AI agents need a description of what to produce in the function and test, typically that's written in the comments of the code for that function (more advanced and more risky is to write descriptions for components and ignoring the functional test, for a component level test or larger system testing).

Coding is moving more towards AI agents - using multiple perspectives during coding, including multiple security, risk, tester agents. The only down side is the code they produce currently can be bad for humans to maintain or resolve defects due to the size of all the systems and varying policies.
 
@NickK That sounds excessive! Is separation of duties what I know as 'separation of concerns', I've come across this when using React. I work in the defence sector so we currently have quite limited scope for using AI in certain scenarios. I have no doubt it will rapidly grow though, one reason we have the Def AI Centre (DAIC) after all, though for obvious reasons I won't even allude to anything going on.
 
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Nothing seems to be very stable of a real career anymore and you can't trust a word execs/CEOs are saying. You always need to be looking for the next thing or have a side husstle now. If you get even a slight bit of wind of redundancies within your company, start applying elsewhere.
 
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