The AMD Driver Thread

[Grim5]

Driver support is ends for RDNA1 and RDNA2

All pre RDNA3 GPUs will no longer receive new drivers unless there is a critical security flaw that needs patching.

It's a bit ****** imo, because unlike Nvidia, AMD GPUs do benefit in terms of performance when AMD release optimized game drivers but now anything before RX7000 no longer receives those drivers and so those GPus will now start to look even slower against RX7000 and RX9000 in any new games

It's the same for Intel; their GPUs benefit from optimised game drivers and if they ever stop releasing drivers for older cards, those owners get screwed over. Nvidia GPus for whatever reason don't really benefit, even though Nvidia claims that it released "optimised drivers" in reality they aren't optimized and they don't improve performance

AMD RDNA 1 & 2 GPU Driver Support Moved To "Maintenance" Mode, Game Optimizations & New Tech For RDNA 3, 4 & Beyond

AMD has ditched both RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 graphics cards when it comes to game optimizations and new features, but will receive critical updates

wccftech.com

 

[AMD_Vik]

Driver support is ends for RDNA1 and RDNA2

All pre RDNA3 GPUs will no longer receive new drivers unless there is a critical security flaw that needs patching.

It's a bit ****** imo, because unlike Nvidia, AMD GPUs do benefit in terms of performance when AMD release optimized game drivers but now anything before RX7000 no longer receives those drivers and so those GPus will now start to look even slower against RX7000 and RX9000 in any new games

AMD RDNA 1 & 2 GPU Driver Support Moved To "Maintenance" Mode, Game Optimizations & New Tech For RDNA 3, 4 & Beyond

AMD has ditched both RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 graphics cards when it comes to game optimizations and new features, but will receive critical updates

wccftech.com

this is miscommunicated, KMD2 RDNA devices (RX5000/6000 series) will still receive bug fixes as usual. Furthermore, UMD fixes (D3D, OpenGL, Vulkan) will apply here, as these binaries are shared between both ranges.

 

[AMD_Vik]

@AMD_Vik I updated to 25.10.2 last night. GFX sapphire 9070 xt pure. Star Citizen won't launch at all now. It worked fine before driver update

Is this with D3D11 or Vulkan?

 

[Bodom]

Driver support is ends for RDNA1 and RDNA2

All pre RDNA3 GPUs will no longer receive new drivers unless there is a critical security flaw that needs patching.

It's a bit ****** imo, because unlike Nvidia, AMD GPUs do benefit in terms of performance when AMD release optimized game drivers but now anything before RX7000 no longer receives those drivers and so those GPus will now start to look even slower against RX7000 and RX9000 in any new games

It's the same for Intel; their GPUs benefit from optimised game drivers and if they ever stop releasing drivers for older cards, those owners get screwed over. Nvidia GPus for whatever reason don't really benefit, even though Nvidia claims that it released "optimised drivers" in reality they aren't optimized and they don't improve performance

AMD RDNA 1 & 2 GPU Driver Support Moved To "Maintenance" Mode, Game Optimizations & New Tech For RDNA 3, 4 & Beyond

AMD has ditched both RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 graphics cards when it comes to game optimizations and new features, but will receive critical updates

wccftech.com

Really hope that's not true kinda sucky if it is

 

[welshrat]

Is this perhaps because redstone upscaling will only work on these cards?

 

[Bodom]

this is miscommunicated, KMD2 RDNA devices (RX5000/6000 series) will still receive bug fixes as usual. Furthermore, UMD fixes (D3D, OpenGL, Vulkan) will apply here, as these binaries are shared between both ranges.

So does that mean the updates will still support RDNA2 and 3?

 

[Gerard]

Downloaded the redsec version of battlefield and its working fine with my vega card, strange that the beta needed a workaround.

 

[stuartharrison]

Is this with D3D11 or Vulkan?

I presume it's DX11 as I think that's the default and i haven't touched it.
I only started playing it last Sunday, so whichever is the default setting.

 

[AMD_Vik]

So does that mean the updates will still support RDNA2 and 3?

Support will occur across separate branches: 25:10 for KMD2 RDNA devices like the RX 5000 and 6000 series, and 25.20+ for KMD3 devices like the 7000, 800/0 9000 and later.

Whilst the kernel mode driver has been split between these product generations, the usermode driver stack (3D Gfx & compute APIs) is still common between them.

 

[mark 11:11]

Support will occur across separate branches: 25:10 for KMD2 RDNA devices like the RX 5000 and 6000 series, and 25.20+ for KMD3 devices like the 7000, 800/0 9000 and later.

Whilst the kernel mode driver has been split between these product generations, the usermode driver stack (3D Gfx & compute APIs) is still common between them.

does this mean those of us running dual gpu setups with an rdna 2 and an rdna4 card might suddenly start having issues with them not both working nicely? them using the same adrenaline software is a majorly convenient thing lol and there isnt a tiny rdna 4 card to replace the 6500xt card i use alongside the 9070xt

 

[AMD_Vik]

does this mean those of us running dual gpu setups with an rdna 2 and an rdna4 card might suddenly start having issues with them not both working nicely? them using the same adrenaline software is a majorly convenient thing lol and there isnt a tiny rdna 4 card to replace the 6500xt card i use alongside the 9070xt

This is a very good question. AMD.com should be hosting combined driver packages supporting both targets simultaneously, though these are fairly large in size (approx 1.6GiB). The auto-detect tool will also install software for all of your display adapters, though I believe it will only explicitly support the devices presently installed (not good for people like me who swap various AMD Gfx board in and out).

In such an environment, the newer UX would take precedence, though this is generally designed with Raphael / Granite Ridge iGFX + KMD3 dGFX in mind, though in the case of multi-dGPU systems spanning KMD2 and 3 devices, I would still imagine things would work more or less as expected.

I presume it's DX11 as I think that's the default and i haven't touched it.
I only started playing it last Sunday, so whichever is the default setting.

A colleague of mine has attempted to launch the app just now, though they're hitting the following error related to EasyAntiCheat:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...tant_crashing_as_soon_as_i_get_in_game_since/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1f6q5kv/untrusted_system_file/

Are you seeing something similar or just a straight crash to desktop?

 

[tamzzy]

team green wins again lol. dropping optimisation support for RDNA2 is really sucky.
if the cpu division can support AM4 since 2017...the gpu division has a lot to learn.
big slap in the face tbh

 

[Grim5]

Well CPU division doesn't have to release new drivers every month to be fair. Its an obvious cost cutting exercise

 

[AMD_Vik]

team green wins again lol. dropping optimisation support for RDNA2 is really sucky.
if the cpu division can support AM4 since 2017...the gpu division has a lot to learn.
big slap in the face tbh

what do you mean by dropping optimisation support

 

[tamzzy]

what do you mean by dropping optimisation support

Literally what it says on the tin isn't it?

"RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 graphics cards will continue to receive driver updates for critical security fixes and bug resolutions"

Does that not mean that rdna1/2 won't receive driver optimisation for newly released games in the future?

 

[Grim5]

Or new features, i.e can kiss goodbye any hope of FSR4 support

 

[AMD_Vik]

Literally what it says on the tin isn't it?

"RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 graphics cards will continue to receive driver updates for critical security fixes and bug resolutions"

Does that not mean that rdna1/2 won't receive driver optimisation for newly released games in the future?

I still don't understand what this means. I don't believe the 5 and 6000 series have received ASIC-specific perf opts for some time now. As I mentioned earlier, they share the usermode driver stack with the 7,8 and 9000 series. Those improvements will continually be aligned.

Or new features, i.e can kiss goodbye any hope of FSR4 support

RDNA 1 and 2 haven't seen much in the way of new features for some time now either.

 

[Grim5]

RDNA 1 and 2 haven't seen much in the way of new features for some time now either.

I know, but some owners have been hoping there would be something announced especially as there is a way to hack fSR4 to work on the older cards so people were hoping amd would announce official support at some point

 

[Grim5]

Hub's take

HUB noticed AMD's decision affects many APU's including the Steamdeck, which is now a legacy product in terms of optimisation

HUB is calling for AMD to immediately reverse its decision, at least for RDNA2 products

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Absolutely vile decision, these companies are a disgrace.