The Biggest Decision Of My Life

demon8991 said:
Yer that’s what I was thinking, I mean I am very new to all this but I was thinking of getting a job a back office getting some good understanding and experience and then progress into something more demanding.

There are so many 'educated idiots' in this country surely experience should be the biggest factor in whether or not a good job can be delegated.

If you are talking in an IB context, dont rely on being able to move from back to front office, afraid to say its nigh on impossible for the big banks. You may be able to advance into middle office roles though.
 
If you leave university you could become a trainee chartered accountant and gain an ACCA qualification (not as good as ACA, you need a degree for this one). This will lead to a fairly good wage :)
 
Yer thats what i was hoping, i know that we can only estimate, but how much do you think id be limited to earn without a degree assuming i progress through the job well.

I mean i know im never going to be capable of 100k+ realistically without a degree.
 
I think it's fairly low going up to about 20k once you do your finals. When you're qualified I think it goes up to about 30k though... I have a friend who's doing it :)
 
25-30k in london for chartered (ACA), but they won't take you on without a degree for that. Demonic how hard do you think you worked this year? I nearly failed two modules last year but I knew I hadn't put the work in. This year I've actually done some work and am on a 2:1. Stick with it for a while and if you don't see any improvement think about dropping out.
 
SaBBz said:
I think it's fairly low going up to about 20k once you do your finals. When you're qualified I think it goes up to about 30k though... I have a friend who's doing it :)

A friend graduated with a 2:1 in law from KCL... he decided to go into accountancy and is training at the moment and is only on around £16k. Two friends got firsts in law and got training contracts with large firms and are on around £26k to train... once their qualified their salary will get even bigger. :o
 
I'm starting to come to one of 3 Conclusions Either:
Students are thick
or
GD Posters are Thick.
Or
It might be a combination of the 2

Why not stick it out at Uni whilst applying for a real job. If the right oppertunity crops up take it, if not you should still be able to get a degree


Now The other thing I have to ask is: Why is it you feel you are capable of getting a good degree, when you are failing modules?

I'm in my 3rd year I have a full time job, a child to support and a gaming addiction to service. I have never failed a module and am within reach of a 2.1. TBH I have not exactly tried my hardest to get the grades I have got.
 
I worked very hard on all projects, coursework and homeworks.

Went to most of my lectures, and studied hard, but in the end i ran out of time, as we dont have a 3rd term where i am, as its taken up for exams. And all my coursework and revising was during the 2nd term. I didnt go out in about 3 months, but i still think i could have done more.

Ive got 60 credits in total i need 80 to pass so 1 more pass would get me on to the next year.

I forgot to mention that i am contracted to a house in london (uxbridge) so this is a big part of my decision, my student loan covers the rent for the year but if i dont carry on then my first months rent is due on the 10th of August (my retakes being at the end of august) So im worried if i fail again that i will be 2 months of rent due to pay and not enough money to cover it.
 
Kronologic said:
I'm starting to come to one of 3 Conclusions Either:
Students are thick
or
GD Posters are Thick.
Or
It might be a combination of the 2

Why not stick it out at Uni whilst applying for a real job. If the right oppertunity crops up take it, if not you should still be able to get a degree


Now The other thing I have to ask is: Why is it you feel you are capable of getting a good degree, when you are failing modules?

I'm in my 3rd year I have a full time job, a child to support and a gaming addiction to service. I have never failed a module and am within reach of a 2.1. TBH I have not exactly tried my hardest to get the grades I have got.

Becuase i know that a maths degree is one of the hardest, i mean i could easily get a PE degree or something of the like as i am always teaching my friends bits from their modules, i am very good at what im good at with maths but struggle with certain aspects such as numerical methods and stats.

Your obviously a very bright guy and soak information up very easily.
 
As far as I am aware, although it may have changes in the short time I have been away from uni, but the 1st year of a degree course are generally seen as taster years and dont actually go towards your final degree grading.

So technically you could redo the exams you failed, and start year 2 and ensure you dont make the same mistakes. Or leave, get a job as a trainee and work your rear end off to get what you desire.

Remember, money isnt everything.
 
Speak to your careers office about direct entry to year 2 of a different degree, something you think will give you an easier time but still be attractive to the city.

Worse comes to the worse you have to start from year 1 again, I think a good degree in a good course at a good university will set you up better than having flunked out in year 1 and job hunting with just a levels, experience or not.
 
Kronologic said:
I'm in my 3rd year I have a full time job, a child to support and a gaming addiction to service. I have never failed a module and am within reach of a 2.1. TBH I have not exactly tried my hardest to get the grades I have got.

What degree? ;)
 
demon8991 said:
Does anyone know if the step up to year 2 maths is a big one or not?

I did Mech. Eng (admittedly 10 yrs ago) and the step us in terms of the mathematics modules was unbelievable. i found the first year courses were a touch advanced than your A-levels..

Turning to your original question, as harsh as it sounds, it is unrealistic to expect to walk into the top banks and earn the big cash. Like it or not, there are people your age who got 3, 4, 5 or even more grade A's at A-level and walked a first class in their first year, together with doing charity work, and playing in the first team netball/rugby etc. You don't sound like one of these people.
 
This is my personal statement of which i used bits and bobs in my cv, i am not what you are making me out to be!

demon8991 said:
I have an insatiable appetite for understanding the world about me; I want to know why things are the way they are and why things work the way they do. Logical argument and rigorous proof engage and inspire me in equal measure.

Studying mathematics, chemistry and IT at A level has provided me with a solid foundation in technology and physical science. Mathematics has been a subject I have always enjoyed right from my first days at school. I relish the intellectual challenge it provides and derive huge satisfaction from applying mathematical techniques to solve seemingly intractable problems. Studying the physical sciences has helped explain aspects of the world that surrounds me, but I want to understand so much more. Everything intrigues me: from how an aircraft flies to how a drug molecule works. Such interest probably stems from time spent as a child watching and questioning my grandfather who worked as an engineer with motor-sport as his hobby. Understanding how a car engine worked undoubtedly proved the genesis for my interest in machines and the generation and utilisation of all forms of energy.

Computing and computers occupy a central place in my life. I built my first computer over two years ago for a friend and soon went on to build a very high specification machine of my own. At home I have set up a part-wireless network, comprising three machines: two personal computers and one server. At the end of Year 12 I spent a week on a work shadowing placement in the IS department of a science-based company. This was a very worthwhile experience and demonstrated the vital part computing now plays in modern scientific research. During the week I was also shown how a computer network is organised to support all aspects of a business, including, in this case, scientific work, customer and supplier bases, and internal communication and administration. I was particularly impressed by the advantages a sophisticated intranet provides.

Sport occupies much of my remaining time. At school I participate in a number of sports, including rugby, football, tennis, athletics and trampolining. At each year stage I have represented the school at rugby and athletics and have gone on to play representative rugby for Cambridgeshire and Essex schools at U15 and U16 levels. Being district sports champion at discus for two consecutive years represent the high points of my school athletics career. Outside school, I have been a member of the youth section at Bishops Stortford Rugby Club for four consecutive seasons. However, this year I have made the transition into men’s rugby by joining the rugby club of my home town, Saffron Walden. I am currently playing regularly in the second fifteen. Tennis is another sport I play outside school and this I do during summer months at a local club.

As well as taking part myself, I am always keen to help others develop their sporting talents. I have helped out in school by coaching rugby and trampolining at Lower School sports clubs. Helping younger people develop their skills has been a very rewarding experience and one that has also helped me with my understanding of the sports I enjoy. To improve as a coach I have pursued and achieved a sports leadership award (BST Level 1 Award). For this I had to plan detailed training sessions in various sports and lead teams of pupils over a number of lessons. The experience has taught me some of the techniques employed in the coaching of both individual and team sports, and it has also improved my communication and interpersonal skills significantly.

My career aim at this point is to marry the skills I have and those I hope to gain in mathematics with my deep-seated interest in computers and their applications. Before that, however, I am looking forward to the challenge of further study and to taking full advantage of the many other opportunities offered at university.
 
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