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In my eyes every good man (and woman) should know how to make a few key cocktails, These do not have to be "classics" but you should know how to make a cocktail you enjoy. This is what this thread is for. These short (and long) drinks have a great history across the world, but Britain has played a huge part in them, and as well as being delicious, open up a huge range of flavors to enjoy. I won't dwell to much on the history, there is much written on them out there, books, blogs and more, go explore and at some point I shall write a little on them.

Equipment

Cocktails do not require a whole bar full of bottles nor an array of kit and glassware, though it doesn't hurt. Below is a list I have previously posted that is about all the home cocktailer will require. All are easily found through Google and Amazon has a good starter kit. As ever, the best thing to do is buy what your favorite drinks require and build from there.

A shaker (a boston shaker is my preference, a tin and glass that stick together and are paired with a hawthorne strainer), bar spoon, measures (a 25/50ml jigger is good), muddler, waiters friend, peeler, cocktail sticks, mexican elbow squeezer and julep and hawthorne strainers. A cloth and knife but these are a given most anywhere. Perhaps a microplane grater.

Rocks, high ball and cocktail glasses (coupe or martini is your choice). Beer, wine and champagne glasses dependent on preference.

Ice, good ice. Large cubes are the best, they can be cracked down if required and are an essential in my book.

Simple/gomme syrup (essentially sugar dissolved in water), lemons, limes, oranges, glace cherries, eggs, soda + tonic water, orange juice, grenadine, lime cordial (who doesn't love a gimlet!) as well as olives and silver skin onions (for a martini and gibson respectively).

http://12bottlebar.com/bottles/ is a good starter list on the drinks front (read their reasoning about what did and didn't make the cut), I personally would add a bottle of cachaça as I like a caipirinha, campari for a negroni, perhaps a couple of bottles of single malt and a añejo tequila for having neat. What bottles you add are entirely up to your drinking preference. I always have multiple gins (currently Gordons green and yellow label, Beefeater, Sipsmith and Blackwoods Limited Edition), sweet and dry vermouth (Punt e Mes and Noilly Prat respectively), campari, cointreau, rye, irish and single malt whiskey's and angostura bitters

Negroni

One of my favorite cocktails is the Negroni, its simple to make, short, refreshing and bitter, I urge you to try it, not all will like it but its an experience. It works well from lunch to pre dinner, especially when the sun is out. The story goes that it was made after Count Camillo Negroni asked a Florence bartender in 1919 to make him a strong Americano (sweet vermouth, Campari and soda), so the soda was exchanged for gin and the rest is history.

1 part (25ml is my measure) Gin (Beefeater is my preference)
1 part Sweet Vermouth (currently using Punt e Mes but Martini Rouge will make a good drink)
1 part Campari

Build in a chilled rocks glass over large ice cubes, stir well and garnish with a large piece of orange peel. Can be shaken and strained in to a chilled cocktail glass then garnished if your feeling fancy.

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Bars

Below is a list of what I feel are some of London's best bars, mostly because of the drinks but they all have a special feel.

Nightjar 20's speakeasy, utter perfection.

Purl I wasn't a huge fan, but I only went for a quiet drink early on a Wednesday so mileage may vary. Cool drinks with dry ice.

Mark's Bar good cocktails, excellent bar snacks and the oyster ale is to die for.

Claridges Bar the best service in town, an utter institution and all are made to feel welcome.

Dukes Bar ignore the new, crap website, it has the best martinis in town by a long way.

The American Bar felt a little impersonal but great cocktails and a London classic.

Rules Bar great wood panelled room, the doorman will let you in, just ask.

The Coburg Bar
Full of Mayfair suits but good cocktails and a nice atmosphere make it a good place for after work drinks

Paramount The viewing gallery on the 33rd floor of the Centre Point tower perhaps has London's best view. If you are ever in town skip the Eye and head here, you can linger for as long as you want, drinking and nibbling plus there is a 360 degree view, and with it being just a corridor around the building it feels very calm.

The Lonsdale been ages since I have been, but I have a vague recollection of good vesper's and a cool crowd.

Time Out has a good list, here.I think the Nightjar is the best for a night out but have a real soft spot for Claridges, even if it is expensive!

So good people, what are your favorite drinks, best bars and cocktailing stories?
 
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I'm new to cocktails and only started an interest from listening to Dave Arnold's cooking issues podcast.

He's got some great articles on his blog about the science of cocktails, with some really good stuff around dilution, ice myths and so on:
http://www.cookingissues.com/2010/09/02/cocktail-science-in-general-part-1-of-2/

http://www.cookingissues.com/2010/09/08/cocktail-science-in-generalpart-2-of-2/


Dave's rates Tony Conigliaro as one of the top mixologists in the world, and he runs the following 2 bars in London:
http://69colebrookerow.com/index.php/about/
http://www.thezettertownhouse.com/cocktail-lounge

Also - the most recent episode of cooking issues (13/03/2012) has Tony C in as a guest with some interesting discussion
 
Best venue for cocktails in London is Callooh Callay. I won't go into too much detail, but whenever I'm in London you can find me down there. Especially on a weekend as they have their members bar hidden upstairs, with an entire specialist menu each weekend. Some of the best most inventive cocktails around.

69 colebrook, or 'the bar with no name' is the other place I go fairly often, but I normally only go down when Tony Conigliaro is around. Sometime a little difficult due to there only being something like 30 seats in there!
 
I adore an Old Fashioned or a Boston Sour. Truly great cocktails.

I'll post a recipe tomorrow.

Best cocktails bar in Glasgow:

Blue Dog.
Butchershop Bar and Grill.
Hummingbird.
 
Great stuff guys; Oli, the science stuff is great and kind of confirms what I knew about stirring, but the shaking is a revelation, useful to know. I have Callooh Callay and 69 Colebrook Row on my list and the Zetter bar is news to me but looks fantastic.

I have to give a Manchester recommendation, found myself up there last weekend and ended up in Apotheca where we had good cocktails in a cool atmosphere. Negroni made with Sipsmith gin and Antica Formula and an Old Fashioned with Sazerac Rye, all very good.
 
LA is thankfully home to some of the best mixologists in the world. You are never more than a few minutes away from 5 or 6 awesome cocktail bars.

The biggest disappoint however, was the one I most looked forward to. The Roosevelt Hotel. Went there last month for the first time in a long time, as their two cocktail bars had just brought in two new mixologists. I had the worst old fashioned of my life there. And considering the atmospheric price I paid, I was thoroughly disappointed!
 
Speaking of the Old Fashioned, tonights cocktailing comes courtesy of a rye whiskey Old Fashioned.

75ml Rye whiskey, bourbon is often used, I prefer rye (spicier than bourbon). Tonight I am using Pikesville Supreme, I prefer Rittenhouse BIB (50% vs Pikesville's 40% and spicier) but I ran out and have had trouble finding a bottle.
3 dashes Angostura bitters. Vary the amount of dashes depending on your preference.
1 sugar cube
1 splash of water (some use soda, I don't see the need)
Orange peel garnish

Place the sugar cube in an rock glass (old fashioned glass or lowball tumbler, whatever you call it), add the Angostura bitters and a splash of water. Muddle (crush and mix) with a muddler (or use the end of a rolling pin or anything else large and heavy) until the sugar dissolves. Add 75ml of rye whiskey, fill the glass with large cubes of ice and stir (make note of oli's post on stirring for a length of time). Garnish with orange peel and enjoy.

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Note; muddling a slice of orange and/or glace cherries is a big no no in my eyes, if you want to screw with a classic then go ahead, but you want the whiskey to shine and this will eliminate that.

Here is the cocktail king (Don Draper) making an old fashioned. Not a recipe that I would be keen on (too much soda, not enough muddling/stirring) but YMMV.


And Jeffery Morganthaler with his recipe, again different but as with most cocktails there are a million recipes. Mr. Morganthaler makes reference to the origins of this cocktail when an old fashioned could be ordered with most any spirit and would get you a combination of spirit, sugar, water and bitters.

 
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Just made myself a margarita:
1.5 shots of hq 100% agave tequila like Cuervo gold, Patron silver, Don Julio etc.
1 shot fresh squeezed lime, has to be fresh.
0.5-1oz Cointreau. More if you like your sweeter.

Ice cubes to taste.

The classic is to line the glass rim with salt but you don't have to.

Blend the ice makes a nice alternative and a longer drink.
 
Love me an old fashioned, not made one in a while actually, something I will have to rectify this evening. I do pop a maraschino cherry in sometimes.

Made some daiquiris recently when it was nice, refreshing drink that.
 
My invention, the Caribbean Colonial:

2 parts good dark/gold rum e.g Havana Club 7yr
1 part Triple-Sec, preferably Cointreau
4 parts Copella English Apple Juice
Lime wedge


Fill a tumbler with ice, preferably just one or two large chunks if possible, squeeze lime wedge over the ice and add it to the glass.

Shake all ingredients over ice, strain into a tumbler.

I find the sweetness of Havana Club 7 perfect for this recipe, you can use another rum if you want the taste more neutral and if you're feeling extravagant, El Dorado 12 works well too as it also has that sweetness to offset the acid in the apple juice.
 
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Anyone got any "cheap to make" cocktails? I know it slightly defeats the point, but meh, I'm cheap.

I've got a bottle of cheap whiskey I'd like to use up, so anything involving that is good.
 
I'm thinking of getting a small cocktail setup at home. Anyone know of the best online alcohol retailer? Supermarket prices with a wider selection would be ideal.
 
my 'go-to' cocktail is usually the cosmo. yes, it's pink and girly but it's really easy to get right and people love it when you do :P

my spirit measure's a bit generous, so this is what i go for when making one:

70ml vodka
35ml cointreau
juice from one lime
~20ml cranberry juice (a few splashes, mostly to add colour)

shake everything together with ice, strain into chilled glass, badabing badaboom
 
Me and my girlfriend have taken to making our own version of a cocktail generally called stormy seas or stormier seas. Usually its kraken rum, ginger beer, wedge of lime and ice.

Our version -

Havana 7 year old rum (about a double shots worth)
Gin (any Gordons, Bombay sapphire etc.) (Either 1 or 2 shots worth)
Ice
Squeezed wedge of lime, smeared around rim and a small wedge in the glass
fill with ginger beer till glass is about 80% full
top up remaining bit of glass with sparkling tonic water
Give it a good stir.

I promise its the bees knees :)

Enjoy
 
My go-to cocktail is a Tom Collins. Unfortunately most bar tenders ruin it in various ways so I rarely bother now.

I discovered Campari Spritz at the weekend. Most people cringed when they tried some but as soon as you tell people to think of blood oranges and have a couple more sips they start to like it. Bit of a gay looking drink but I'm going to make it my thing for a while.
 
My friend and her husband are coming to my house this weekend and I want to make a cocktail or 7 for them

I WANT to make Cosmopolitans and Long Island Ice Teas (for the boys) but money is tight and to get all extra liquors to make both is looking unlikely

I have:

Vodka
Gin
Cassis

In the cupboard...is there anything I could make using those ingredients? Obvs I will by mixers as required

What do you think?
 
Old Fashioned
God Father
Long Island Ice Tea

Are my usuals if drinking while out, at home it's pretty much whatever I can cobble together :p

recently had a Gold Fashioned at the House of Bols in amsterdam, was pretty damn tasty if you can find the recipe
 
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