The collapse of Roberto Mancini and Manchester City?

He's a poor manager, he had the best team in italy for 2 seasons Inter Milan he couldn't do anything in Europe, only reason he won the league titles with them was because Juve and Milan were severely punished, and the only reason he won the league last year was because he had the most expensive team in England.

Man city dont look like a team to me they just look like a bunch of Individuals Mancini has to go he's not good enough.
 
Half a billion in transfers alone since 2008.

There are no excuses for City, they have all the advantages they could possibly wish for and Mancini is still ballsing it up.

They should be 100% win record in all competitions for the amount of money they have spent.
 
Hart has kept them in games single-handedly they really should have dropped points in

I never wish any player to get injured, but the true perfornace of the team would become much more apparant if JH wasnt in goal

They do appear more jaded, and Toure (who is a still a very good player) just appears to be a lot less influential (so far) than he was last season.

Of course on the flip side , they have missed Silva drastically (which any team in the world would miss also)
 
Toure was vastly over rated last year, there were many times he was completely unplayable, but there were a minimum of a dozen games he was knackered by not long into the second half, did nothing defensively, and admittedly in a couple those games he'd save all his energy for one devestating burst forward, effective largely because at those times he was knackered and barely moving would tend to see City put under pressure and that plays into the runs out of nowhere counter attacks pretty well. Though I do agree, he's not managed to be that driving force this year.

Silva, they don't miss him though, the biggest issue for City was Silva disappearing. When City are playing well and Silva has time he can put in some magic passes, when the team is under pressure and they need a player to step up, hold the ball, make a play and fight with less numbers up the pitch.... he's no where. CL last year, him and Nasri disappeared in games like those. It was Yaya at his best driving them forwards that would drag them out of a bad performance, never Silva. The way City are playing currently its the drive forwards they seem to need, not Silva. Personally I don't think Silva would make a tiny bit of difference at the moment, they need some pace/guile on the wings and well, when Toure isn't holding the team together, Barry isn't good enough to step up and do, well, anything.


Mancini blamed the players for every mistake last year, he's doing it more, he has the cheek to call them out as not being top players if they aren't perfect at a system they've never played and he won't practice. Performances are going backwards and turning on your players(now with the whole squad knowing full well he'll " do a Tevez" to anyone he decides to turn on next, I can't imagine the players being too happy).

ANyway, the press are probably making it up, but all talking about Guardiola's agent talking him up for a job next year. Considering they bought in his previous bosses while at Barca the papers are putting two and two together and decided City are building a management team Guardiola would like to work with.
 
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It does make me laugh when people think because we have spent X amount on players and we have Y amount of CL apps and Z amounts of international caps that we should win every game.

No team has a divine right to win any game, it is easy to beat us with the "money stick" and that is why the media love making up stories about the players, Mancini and the club.

You can say what you like about his previous record in the CL and this season but is it really his fault the players aren't performing? In the CL it is pretty much all down to luck, look at Celtic last night, they were completely dominated but won. Chelsea last season were dominated in a few games and they won the whole thing.

What more can he do apart from start the best set of players available in what is considered our best formation. Mancini has done both of these.
Part way through a game he has changed the formation to try and win the game because our usual system isn't working. The media portray it as eg it being City 2-0 Dortmund, then Mancini goes and changes it to 352/532 and we end up losing 3-2 and he did it on purpose.

Surely trying to change the formation and trying to utilize different players is better than just sitting there and then be labelled as a terrible manager who doesn't do anything to change the game?

We come back from 1-0 down to win 2-1 after a switch to 352 and Mancini is labelled a genius, we go from 1-0 down to lose 2-1 after the switch to 352 and Mancini is labelled a failure and is going to be sacked.
 
I don't see what we will gain by removing Mancini and putting in Guardiola.

He will want to go on another big spending spree and then when he doesn't win every game the media, forums, fans will be screaming for his head saying hahaha he's a rubbish manager a teaspoon could have managed Barcelona.
 
I don't see what we will gain by removing Mancini and putting in Guardiola.

He will want to go on another big spending spree and then when he doesn't win every game the media, forums, fans will be screaming for his head saying hahaha he's a rubbish manager a teaspoon could have managed Barcelona.

For a start you will do much much better in Europe than what you are doing this yr and last yr.

How is it a team full of some outstanding talent can fail so miserably in the CL??...do you honestly think your rich owners will just ignore that??. Pretty sure your owners will want to win the CL at some point.

Guardiola will make you infinitely better, that much is a given.

I said it last yr and ive been saying it since Mancini was appointed your manager. He just isnt good enough to manage a team like City, got lucky winning the EPL last season via goal difference and didnt do much in the CL.

I just cant see Mancini lasting more than this season especially if you dont win the EPL or any trophies this yr.
 
Manchester City are in danger of breaking the record of worst perfromance in Europe by an English side.

Mancini, is not good enough, on and off the pitch. The worrying thing with City is not how much money they have, it is more a case of how good they could be with a better manager.

There are 6/7 properly good players in that side, others either aren't good enough or are still developing.
 
You simply cannot say that he will do better. He has never managed outside of a incredible team in Barcelona. The only manager that can really guarantee trophies is Mourinho. Even he spent a fortune at Chelsea and never won it but then went to Inter and did it. As I said it is just luck of the draw how well you will do.

Guardiola might come in and get us playing a different style of football but that is no guarantee it will win trophies as we have never seen him implement the tactics anywhere else before.

I am not saying he cant come in and turn us into CL winners but nothing is a given just because he has won it before.
Our owners are a lot more lenient than people think, why would you offer a 5yr contract to someone then just replace them because results didn't go as expected. I am aware it does happen but I just can't see it.
 
PG didnt even put the Barca squad together (although admittedly he added the likes of Fabregas etc)

He would probably want to spend a small fortune, but City would probably get better results all around for that (although it might take PG a few months to adapt to the EPL)

Would have him at Utd in a shot (once SAF has decided to step down/into the background ) but not sure PG would get enough money to spend initially or whether he would want to work in Manchester (rumours he is only considering London, where English clubs are concerned)
 
Apparently there is a clause that allows us to sack Mancini/Mancini can leave after two seasons without a cost to the club or him.

Interesting if true.
 
Apparently there is a clause that allows us to sack Mancini/Mancini can leave after two seasons without a cost to the club or him.

Interesting if true.

from his old contract - or the one just signed?

Old one would make it irrelevant (as new contract supercedes it)

New one means another 18 months + before that clause can be activated (even if it exists).

Either way it doesnt make much difference to this season.

The other thing is that there are other reasons why the owners (who of course arent scratching around for a spare million or five) would give Mancini a big pay off even despite that clause.
 
from his old contract - or the one just signed?

Old one would make it irrelevant (as new contract supercedes it)

New one means another 18 months + before that clause can be activated (even if it exists).

Either way it doesnt make much difference to this season.

The other thing is that there are other reasons why the owners (who of course arent scratching around for a spare million or five) would give Mancini a big pay off even despite that clause.

I highly doubt compensation amounts will make a difference!
 
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