The difference in wages

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Sorry thorpy, you are never going to be an intelligence officer. You can't ever wear disguises as your square head gives it away :D.

It's weird, but I imagine that the MOD does not have as good career progression and with MI5 you will soon be sleeping with Russian women.
 
RomanNose said:
Sorry thorpy, you are never going to be an intelligence officer. You can't ever wear disguises as your square head gives it away :D.

It's weird, but I imagine that the MOD does not have as good career progression and with MI5 you will soon be sleeping with Russian women.
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Lay off the cranium yea? ;)

Haha, i did a bit of reading and MOD did say they lose a lot of mid-career staff to other companies/agencies.

Moses said:
That's just starting salary, but with the forces you have to go all over the World, can have you life at risk, etc. I don't think the MI5 job will be like Spooks...
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Ahhh okay, never watched Spooks though!
 
007 or Jack Bauer it isn't.

Sitting around looking at hundreds of field reports and recon photos looking for minute differences can get very boring, very quickly.
 
I heard being an intelligence officer is really boring. My uncle used to be one he said all he did was sit in a car looking at people or just going through hundreds of phone calls and emails.
 
malthus said:
I heard being an intelligence officer is really boring. My uncle used to be one he said all he did was sit in a car looking at people or just going through hundreds of phone calls and emails.
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It can be, depends on what you like I suppose.....although those salaries are not really indicative of what people really earn. I know a couple of language analysts that earn twice that.
 
Thorpy said:
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/showjob.aspx?id=174
£24,750 London £22,000 Greater Manchester and West Midlands

Dno.
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Like I said the actual salaries you can expect to earn are far more than that.....they are starting salaries and even then if you are fluent in more than one dialect of Pashto, especially some of the Eastern and Central Afghani dialects like Waziri and Durrani and the separate language of Dari then you would expect to earn more than the headline amount in those recruitment advertisements.

Otherwise there are plenty of private companies that would hire you for significantly more.
 
It doesnt really matter what the wages are as if you are applying for the security services such as MI5 then you aren't supposed to tell anyone about it - chatting about it on a forum is not a great idea if you are serious.
 
Thorpy said:
Now i would have thought mi5 would pay more!?
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The RAF job mentions "pay after training" but doesn't say how long that is - if the training is 3 years but the MI5 job gets a £6k bump inside of two years from the starting salary then which is the more appealing?

Another point to remember here is that there's a certain cachet to working at MI5 that perhaps isn't present in every job, money isn't always a primary motivating factor so it may be that applicants feel they will be exposed to more interesting work which might be enough to sway them.
 
Better delete the thread then.

Just wondering why the starting salary varied thats all :)

edit: Thanks semi-pro :)
 
The training will be about a year, including officer training, I believe. You'd be on about 20k after 3 months of officer training at 17k.
 
Moses said:
Throughout which living costs are ridiculously low/negligible, 'cause it's at Cranwell (iirc). On top of that initial training, there will be more time doing the intelligence officer training, no? I think with the Army, prospective intelligence officers go to Sandhurst for a year, then go with a ~normal~ unit for a while, then go onto intelligence officer specific training.
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Yeah. I can't remember how long their trade training is. About 12 months I think but I'm not sure. I can find out on Monday if OP is still interested.
 
The two jobs are very different. One's civilian and one's military for a start. There are plenty of perks that come with working for a government organisation like flexi-time, generous overtime allowances and leave buy-out schemes.

Before you ask yourself if you want a career in intelligence, you're better off deciding if you're happy to begin a career in the armed forces. Civilian and military intelligence apparatus functions in very different ways and recruit different types of people.
 
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