The end to Fireman Sam?

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The Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade thinks we should stop saying the word ‘fireman’ to encourage more women and BAME applicants.

Should we stop using the word? Would it really make a difference?

What on earth is a BAME?

Should we just stop using the term man?

Has the world gone mad?
 
As someone who identifies as a pyromaniac, I think it's high time we stopped using such an insulting word. I find it highly offensive that people like me are victimised by such insensitive language in these enlightened times.

As such, I'm all for this and am happy to make the suggestion of BigRedNeeNawTruckHelperMan.

On a serious note, I thought they'd been referred to as firefighters for years now? Perhaps the Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade needs to die in a fire? (Literally, when the person sent to rescue them fails because they were hired based on the colour of their skin or what they have between their legs rather than because they were the best person for the job :rolleyes:)
 
Ignoring all stereotypes.. No 5ft albino lesbian muslim girl would be able to carry me out of a burning building.. Haggisman is right.

Also Firefighter Sam doesn't roll of the tongue like Fireman Sam does.
 
Pipe & Slippers said:
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This sensible solution would not work. We can't take away the outrage the OP feels about those who felt outrage in the first place. What next? Expect left-leaning and right-leaning folk to agree on something? The only solution is to bicker endlessly, driving ever bigger wedges between people, and providing no outcome that works for anyone.
 
Haggisman said:
On a serious note, I thought they'd been referred to as firefighters for years now? Perhaps the Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade needs to die in a fire? (Literally, when the person sent to rescue them fails because they were hired based on the colour of their skin or what they have between their legs rather than because they were the best person for the job :rolleyes:)
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First off the OP didn't mention anything about preferential treatment for BAME or female applicants, just encouraging more applicants, which is a good thing as this is one area along with the police where mirroring the community demography can really help with engagement.

On another note is there a particular reason why a person from and ethnic minority might struggle to do the job? I presume they all pass the same fitness tests and what not.
 
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FortuitousFluke said:
First off the OP didn't mention anything about preferential treatment for BAME or female applicants, just encouraging more applicants, which is a good thing as this is one area along with the police where mirroring the community demography can really help with engagement.

On another note is there a particular reason why a person from and ethnic minority might struggle to do the job? I presume they all pass the same fitness tests and what not.
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I would say that women are definitely less able firefighters.

And i would say if we are making an attempt to: "mirroring the community demography"

Then the representation of the public sector workforces should be:

86% white
7.5% Asian/Asian British
3.3% Black/African/Caribbean/Black British
2.2% Mixed/Multiple Ethnic groups
1.0% Other

Otherwise we won't have a "mirror", currently i believe that these figures are actually not favoring the majority in the slightest.

Although my last statement is anecdotal, the representation is factual based on government statistics.
 
terley said:
I would say that women are definitely less able firefighters.

And i would say if we are making an attempt to: "mirroring the community demography"

Then the representation of the public sector workforces should be:

86% white
7.5% Asian/Asian British
3.3% Black/African/Caribbean/Black British
2.2% Mixed/Multiple Ethnic groups
1.0% Other

Otherwise we won't have a "mirror", currently i believe that these figures are actually not favoring the majority in the slightest.

Although my last statement is anecdotal, the representation is factual based on government statistics.
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I assume then you support increasing BAME representation in public sector workplaces where the locality has a higher BAME proportion?
 
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