Indeed.. A lot of EU immigration is "white" people. Not that race should have any bearing on it whatsoever.
The EU Referendum: Polling Day
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The left love bashing poor white people, it's great because they're not considered a minority so it's totally fine to be as derogatory as you like. Say the same about Muslims popping out 9 kids and you'll have the Police on your door step.
So not taking tax credits, child care benfits or anything else? They are entirely self-funding?
Soldato
And from outside the EU.
All of them have had their educated funded by another countries government and are here ready to work.
Bargain!
Well, they easily out pay their cost on a whole.
Soldato
By the same logic, EU born nationals wouldn't be a burden on our services either.
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To be fair, Turkey joining would be somewhat of an achievement (if they legitimately passed all the conditions) as that would mean the EU helped halt the problems they was having within a short period of time. My worry is whether they do legitimately meet all the conditions or just get a bit of a free pass though.And that's why they aren't joining the EU.
They have expressed a wish and aspiration to join the EU and the EU have set down a list of conditions to be met in order to gain membership. Turkey wont be joining until those conditions are met.
I'm not sure why it's so difficult to understand
Not a problem
Soldato
No, but they would be net contributors.
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Poor argument.
1: Tax credits are only paid to those working.
2: Child benefit is payable to those earning upto £60k.
3: Child care vouchers are claimable by anyone working.
So you can claim all the above, and still be a net contributor, although it's marginal if you're claiming tax credits, but certainly counts for the last two.
The number over the long term would decrease as we regain border control and stop taking orders from Brussels. It's not going to change overnight but the reason our migration is now so high is in large due to the EU dictating to us.
That's hardly the point, again shortsightedness by the remain lot, what about the pressure on our public services, housing, education etc. Taxes don't fix that.
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Exactly my thoughts - would be a great example of the EU being a good force for change.
A valid concern, I have faith though from previous entry rounds.
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Mostly, it's the right who love bashing the poor white people. See Daily Mail.
Personally, as an avowed lefty, I rather cringed at MoMoo's comment.
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Well, taxes help, then you need a competent government to administer it.
What a brilliant idea, letting a country fundamentally against core western values join the EU. What a stroke of genius!
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Amazingly - it's not as simple as that! In general terms, British emigrants tend to be retirees who have family back home in the UK. Immigrants to Britain tend to be of working age, so we see lots of them settle down here and start families, which means by the time they're old and in need of serious medical attention, they will understand the UK system and their families will be here. Indeed we are seeing this happening today with immigrants from the Commonwealth who came across in the '60s and '70s.
I guarantee that all the fence sitters will vote remain. It's the sensible thing to do. I will be voting leave but I know it's futile. The bookies even have this as a clean sweep. 1/10 on remain at the moment.
I expect it to be similar to what the forum pole is now 222 remain vs 199 leave. Seems about right 60/40
Mind they were wrong with the last general election.
I expect it to be similar to what the forum pole is now 222 remain vs 199 leave. Seems about right 60/40
Mind they were wrong with the last general election.
Voted and a steady stream of people at the polling station.
Found this quite intresting ..i'm voting out personally, if we wasn't in the EU we wouldn't vote to join after we saw whats happened to countries like Greece, and for me we went to nott one but two world wars ... now we have people in Brussels and Germany making laws in this country.
Caporegime
It's not, but I can see why people think that. It's why the establishment campaign decided to use Project Fear.
Latest electus poll has a 5% swing to remain.
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