The extraction of a suspects mobile phone data

[TW]Fox · 17 May 2012 at 22:41

Tefal said:
yeah that or they might have pictures of their gf on their phone they wont appreciate being copied and shown around the police station.

I would be shocked and appalled if an officer who did this was not instantly dismissed for gross misconduct.

LordSplodge · 17 May 2012 at 22:42

The Halk said:
Sigh, here come the "Well you must have something to hide" comments.

This is despicable.

RDM · 17 May 2012 at 22:43

The Halk said:
I don't know that more important is the right word to use in the comparison. I think you really need to determine which is less important

Well one is important whilst the other is an idle pass time...

Whilst no doubt there are some poor offices out there every single time I have had anything to do with the police they have been nothing but great. And no, I don't live in a some rural utopia, the area I live in is a very poor socio economic area with massive drug problems and the crime that comes along with it...

Tefal · 17 May 2012 at 22:43

[TW]Fox;21945686 said:
I would be shocked and appalled if an officer who did this was not instantly dismissed for gross misconduct.

yeah right.

It took all of a few weeks before the TSA body scanners pictures where all over the place.

if you honestly think an officer wouldn't go "hey Dave check out this" when going through peoples photos you seem to think police officers are radically different to most male workforces.

Sin_Chase · 17 May 2012 at 22:43

Tefal said:
yeah they don't have a way round the password.

Of course they do.

RomanNose · 17 May 2012 at 22:43

[TW]Fox;21945686 said:
I would be shocked and appalled if an officer who did this was not instantly dismissed for gross misconduct.

I don't think that we can particularly trust the police to self regulate though and actually if this is going to happen a judge should just be allowed to look over it to make sure it's running smoothly.
Too many cases of the police not running that smoothly, * cough* NOTW.

LordSplodge · 17 May 2012 at 22:44

[TW]Fox;21945686 said:
I would be shocked and appalled if an officer who did this was not instantly dismissed for gross misconduct.

Given the Met's complicity in phone hacking and other abuse cases I'm not going to trust them to blow my nose.

Sin_Chase · 17 May 2012 at 22:44

Tefal said:
It took all of a few weeks before the TSA body scanners pictures where all over the place.

if you honestly think an officer wouldn't go "hey Dave check out this" when going through peoples photos you seem to think police officers are radically different to most male workforces.

Because the average TSA employee = A police officer. Right?

Tefal · 17 May 2012 at 22:45

Sin_Chase said:
Of course they do.

not in the short time it takes to have the phone blocked.

Also you seem to be ignoring the point that if i had protected my pictures with encryption i'd still have to unlock it for the police or go to jail for 5 years.

so how does encryption solve the problem?

estebanrey · 17 May 2012 at 22:45

I've found it!!!

In a crackdown on motorists breaking the Highway Code, the traffic cops in Bedfordshire have brought in a credit scheme where they get 'points for pulls'. Drivers using mobile phones, not wearing seat belts or having illegal number plates are all on their hit list. The reason for the crackdown is brought sharply into focus when a girl is seriously injured in a three-car pile-up, the disastrous consequence of a woman being on her phone.

Tefal · 17 May 2012 at 22:45

Sin_Chase said:
Because the average TSA employee = A police officer. Right?

they haven't beaten anyone to death so far to be fair to them....

Or shot them then lied about the circumstances...

or being bribed by the media...

Craterloads · 17 May 2012 at 22:45

[TW]Fox;21945686 said:
I would be shocked and appalled if an officer who did this was not instantly dismissed for gross misconduct.

They have been getting away with racial abuse for years, yet you think they will be dismissed for messing with a phone?

Sin_Chase · 17 May 2012 at 22:46

Incentive != Quota.

LordSplodge · 17 May 2012 at 22:46

Sin_Chase said:
Because the average TSA employee = A police officer. Right?

Position of authority. It shows how prone to abuse such systems can be. That's exactly what will happen with this just like the backscatter X-ray machines have been abused.

The Halk · 17 May 2012 at 22:47

Sin_Chase said:
Because the average TSA employee = A police officer. Right?

No, because TSA employee = Person. Police officer = Person.

[TW]Fox · 17 May 2012 at 22:47

Should we get rid of the police entirely then? It seems they cannot be trusted to do anything at all.

So what happens in cases when the police legitimately sieze cameras etc as evidence? Are all the photos passed around everyone at the station or something?

I had imagined, or perhaps hoped, that privacy would be taken quite seriously.

Craterloads · 17 May 2012 at 22:48

Sin_Chase said:
Incentive != Quota.

Wow, just wow.

Think if a "quota" hit you in the face you would be non the wiser.

Swordfish · 17 May 2012 at 22:48

Was just reading this on the BBC site and wonder what would be the scenario that if you were indeed innocent but during the course of checking your phone found texts that could be deemed to be racists/sexist/ etc. You know the jokes we should not laugh at but do.

Plus encrypting that data wont help - it's an offence not to provide the encryption key.

RomanNose · 17 May 2012 at 22:48

[TW]Fox;21945747 said:
Should we get rid of the police entirely then? It seems they cannot be trusted to do anything at all.

SURE!
You need a warrant to enter somebodies home so I think it should be the same for phones as well considering just how much private data they contain.
What harm is there in having a judge just to check it's all sound?

The Halk · 17 May 2012 at 22:49

[TW]Fox;21945747 said:
Should we get rid of the police entirely then? It seems they cannot be trusted to do anything at all.

Yes.

Seriously of course not, however it's been shown that people abuse power. So we just simply need to make sure the police have controls and measures to ensure they don't abuse their power, and to make sure the powers they have are proportionate.