The Falklands thread

Genuine question: what does "renewing one's claim" actually do? Is there some obscure legal thing where they have to renew their claim or forever hold their peace? Or is it just for drawing attention back to the issue?

lolkirchner
 
currently the uk is ranked 5th in the global military strength.
Argentina is ranked 35 th and Spain is ranked 30th, so not really worried at all, even if the argies were sold mirages by the Spanish, there still stuck in the 80's come military strength.
 
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I think its for drawing attention back to the issue unless they have added something new to the claim. Which I think will be unlikely. Most likely it will be something like we have got 2 new UN members to sign a piece of paper saying that we should talk about the issue.

I wish they would give up but I guess something big is about to happen in Argentina which they are trying to draw attention away from. Maybe the government is about to collapse or inflation has gone up again.
 
Those 20 Mirage F1's, if bought by the Argentine Air Force will for the most part, be broken down for parts to keep the remainder flying. I'd be frankly surprised if buying these 20 Mirage's from Spain would result in a double digit rise in the number of operational aircraft available to the AAF.

And besides, even though these are the F1M's that were upgraded in 1998 for the Spanish Air Force that Argentina's supposedly buying, they're still hopelessly outdated when compared to the RAF's Typhoon's based at MPA, and possess nothing to counter the AIM-120C AMRAAM's and soon, MBDA Meteor BVR missiles fielded by the Typhoons.
 
The Funktopus said:
Those 20 Mirage F1's, if bought by the Argentine Air Force will for the most part, be broken down for parts to keep the remainder flying. I'd be frankly surprised if buying these 20 Mirage's from Spain would result in a double digit rise in the number of operational aircraft available to the AAF.

And besides, even though these are the F1M's that were upgraded in 1998 for the Spanish Air Force that Argentina's supposedly buying, they're still hopelessly outdated when compared to the RAF's Typhoon's based at MPA, and possess nothing to counter the AIM-120C AMRAAM's and soon, MBDA Meteor BVR missiles fielded by the Typhoons.
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To say nothing of all the ground and sea based air defence deployed there. I think it's been pretty well established by now that the worst Argentina can do on this issue is cry to the UN about it.
 
Zefan said:
From what I gather, not by a long shot. The whole point of the current defence force is to prevent the situation that necessitated that campaign from arising.
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you sure, falklands get invaded again some how, simple answer park type 45's between the island and argentina. sink and shoot everything down trying to bring supplies in.

also send down a pair of astutes.

then its just rince and repeat like the 80's with the para's and marines yomping over the island.

not impossible no matter how people harp on about not having carriers.
 
I was referring to his question about a campaign similar to the one that occurred before. If you want to talk about any campaign though, then yeah, sure, it could be done.
 
It's a totally different situation, nothing in the air or sea can take them by surprise this time, the argies have old broken equipment which hasn't been updated since the war and we have multiple typhoons on the island anyway, plus a redesigned airbase and air defence.

The same style of attack wouldn't work.
 
wordy said:
Admiral Sandy Woodward died yesterday, wonder if this has anything to do with her piping up again?
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No she is piping up because Argentina has the rotating presidency of the UNSC for August. She met Ban Ki Moon and said some crap about him saying we refused talks. I'm pretty sure we offered tinman talks with FI representatives present earlier in the year but he ran away. UK position is unchanged, fine to have talks with Argentina but it they want to discuss anything to do with the Falkland Islands then someone from the FI government will be invited to attend.

She also spouted some crap about introducing global regulation on spying, i mean wtf.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Are fixed wing carrier aircraft solely to take out other aircraft ?
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When the enemy can't field a credible fixed wing force, can't support or reinforce an invasion (by air or sea), and couldn't even get near the island by sea without being detected, let alone launch a naval force to transport enough troops, I can't see why we need additional fixed wing air cover.

Helicopters are a different matter, and we can launch those from sea.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
currently the uk is ranked 5th in the global military strength.
Argentina is ranked 35 th and Spain is ranked 30th, so not really worried at all, even if the argies were sold mirages by the Spanish, there still stuck in the 80's come military strength.
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It's worth mentioning our rank is skewed by nukes, and we can't exactly go around lobbing them at UN members. Non the less they wouldn't stand a chance, their not stuck in the 80's they never made it there, last war they were using 50's/60's tech, it only worked well at the beginning because we were too.
 
ubersonic said:
It's worth mentioning our rank is skewed by nukes, and we can't exactly go around lobbing them at UN members. Non the less they wouldn't stand a chance, their not stuck in the 80's they never made it there, last war they were using 50's/60's tech, it only worked well at the beginning because we were too.
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Nukes are not taken into account in the rankings for the reasons you've stated.
 
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