The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

[D.P.]

The 960 wins in some games vs. the competition and has lower power consumption to boot. Recommending better products is what I expect these hardware sites to do and they seem to be doing just that... Albeit their testing methods leave lot to be desired, Techreport is the best in this regard but their modus operandi of testing the 99th percentile FPS is not massively popular among the AMD diehards either.

Agreed.

Their testing is plain bizarre but they apply the same methodology to all cards and all reviews. I remember reading reviews of new nVidia cards that got slated because they didn't run any faster than the AMD card when using a higher quality setting.




But I don't know why I am corresponding to HARDOCP stuff since I never posted their latest review yet some are still trying to bait me.

 

[humbug]

Can't somebody start a different thread for the bashing and defending of the Fury X as this one is for the owners. Quite shocking from both AMD and Nvidia fanboys.

This has been said a lot of times already but like everyother thread there are those determined to bash and those just as determined to point out where they are wrong.

 

[ALXAndy]

Can't somebody start a different thread for the bashing and defending of the Fury X as this one is for the owners. Quite shocking from both AMD and Nvidia fanboys.

TBH Greg the very fact that any one enters this thread and posts about Nvidia or argues about the Fury X is nothing but disgraceful behavior. It really is about as disrespectful as it gets.

The fact that most of what they say is BS makes it even more disrespectful, because they should carry the intelligence to realise when it's nothing but BS.

Martini. I own one and I can safely say I love it. I would rather come here and talk about the performance of the card (and no, I don't mean come and show me how the 980ti performs against it because I already know) and talk to other enthusiasts about their experiences with it.

Complaining that there is no stock is fine by me. That's AMD's fault and no one elses. But continually coming in here and flying the flag for the green team is just disgusting.

It's so off topic that I think I am going to start reporting people. As much as I hate it I hate (insert insult about not being too clever here) people who ruin threads with their vitriol.

I have asked this numerous times now but please, moderators, can you please PLEASE sort out this problem. It doesn't happen on forums I visit with practically no moderation, yet you can get a three week suspension for accidentally putting something you were selling in an old thread in a new one

Time to step up I think.

 

[D.P.]

Even as a relative newcomer to this forum, who has cancelled his FX pre-order in frustration at AMD, I can see through your unabated AMD bashing.

As far as i've seen crossfire FXs scale and perform generally better than TIs at 4k in terms of fps, frametimes, temperature, noise, and cost.

The only thing they fall down on in is power draw (irrelevant to me and most other enthusiast users), and availability.

Where did I say you the 980Tis would perform better?
I was responding to some ridiculous AMD fanboy comment using The TX prices as a basis, which is just absolutely laughable and so typically of fanboys, always making the most ridiculous comparison possible to make their favorite company look better.

 

[Gerard]

Not me

Doubting it, same line in rhetoric as you, references these forums quite a bit and the posting style is incredibly similar. Even uses your "i'm a fan of technology" bit.

 

[humbug]

Almost true, as long as by "Nvidia" you mean GTX 980.

http://techreport.com/blog/28624/reconsidering-the-overall-index-in-our-radeon-r9-fury-review

The 99th percentile is based off FPS, the higher FPS the lower The 99th percentile.

its just another way of saying one gets higher FPS than the other.

There is no reason to get hyperbole about it, Techreport are saying the same thing in different ways. its nothing special. its unnecessary but its something else for their readers to look and point at, thats it.

 

[chroniclard]

Just rename the thread to General Fury X thread until there are some owners.

 

[ALXAndy]

Where did I say you the 980Tis would perform better?
I was responding to some ridiculous AMD fanboy comment using The TX prices as a basis, which is just absolutely laughable and so typically of fanboys, always making the most ridiculous comparison possible to make their favorite company look better.

This is an AMD thread, so expect fanboys. If you don't like it go join in the fest in the Nvidia threads.

Just rename the thread to General Fury X thread until there are some owners.

There are plenty of people who have one talking about their cards and experiences with it. I've been posting benchmarks. Sadly I have to wade through all sorts of dumb slop to get to the good posts.

 

[D.P.]

Please show me these games because I haven't seen a single one. Even the witcher 3.



Lmfao what. Tech report is far from the best. 99th percentile FPS is not popular amongst anyone other than nvidia fanboys trying to show how much better their purchase was than billy bob down the street.

AMD generally has lower minimums that NVIDIA, that much is known, they also have more CPU overhead, The two are most likely linked. 99th percentile FPS isn't a good test because all it does is represent that absolute worst possible case, which means almost nothing to a consumer. 80th or 60th percentile is far better as an overall "smoothness" statistic, since it shows how often each card dips and by how much.

Warning Off Topic response to off topic post, look away now if you are fragile:

To be fair 99th percentile make a lot of sense if you are gaming at 100FPS then the 99th percentile would occur every single second of game-play if it was uniformly distributed. the 99th percentile is critical to find out about smoothness, vram thrashing, driver issues etc.


The biggest issue is that you don't know when that 1% happens. Maybe it was just at the start while loading some additional assets. that would be mildly annoying but no big deal if the rest of the game was smooth. conversely, if every 2-3 minutes you had 0.5econd glitch you woudln't get a big deviation in the 99th percentile since most of those frames would be smooth, however the gameplay experience would be horrible.

 

[D.P.]

This is an AMD thread, so expect fanboys. If you don't like it go join in the fest in the Nvidia threads.



There are plenty of people who have one talking about their cards and experiences with it. I've been posting benchmarks. Sadly I have to wade through all sorts of dumb slop to get to the good posts.

When fanboys make ridiculous statements and troll bait expect others to respond.

 

[humbug]

Warning Off Topic response to off topic post, look away now if you are fragile:

To be fair 99th percentile make a lot of sense if you are gaming at 100FPS then the 99th percentile would occur every single second of game-play if it was uniformly distributed. the 99th percentile is critical to find out about smoothness, vram thrashing, driver issues etc.


The biggest issue is that you don't know when that 1% happens. Maybe it was just at the start while loading some additional assets. that would be mildly annoying but no big deal if the rest of the game was smooth. conversely, if every 2-3 minutes you had 0.5econd glitch you woudln't get a big deviation in the 99th percentile since most of those frames would be smooth, however the gameplay experience would be horrible.

And thats fine as long as Techreports 99th percentile is used correctly by who ever it is trying to make a point, first they have to understand it and a lot of people who use it to try and make a point about AMD seemingly don't understand it at all in citing the difference in frame times as being less smooth when infact what they are looking at is as a result of the differences in FPS. Techreports even provide a table of frame times relative to FPS but still they don't understand it.

 

[Kaapstad]

Techreport is the best in this regard but their modus operandi of testing the 99th percentile FPS is not massively popular among the AMD diehards either.

In flagrante using terms and language that simple people like me find difficult to follow. Perhaps we can keep it in English.

Can't somebody start a different thread for the bashing and defending of the Fury X as this one is for the owners. Quite shocking from both AMD and Nvidia fanboys.

+1

We don't actually need any new threads for brand bashing at all, we don't need any full stop.

 

[D.P.]

The 99th percentile is based off FPS, the higher FPS the lower The 99th percentile.

Math fail.

If the distribution is the same then if the mean shifts then the relative position of each percentile will shift linearly.


But see my above comment about the issues with 99th percentile.

 

[humbug]

Math fail.

If the distribution is the same then if the mean shifts then the relative position of each percentile will shift linearly.


But see my above comment about the issues with 99th percentile.

Yes i know that, in that AMD vs Nvidia are no better or worse than each other.

 

[D.P.]

And thats fine as long as Techreports 99th percentile is used correctly by who ever it is trying to make a point, first they have to understand it and a lot of people who use it to try and make a point about AMD seemingly don't understand it at all in citing the difference in frame times as being less smooth when infact what they are looking at is as a result of the differences in FPS. Techreports even provide a table of frame times relative to FPS but still they don't understand it.

I've never seen a good review use proper statistical techniques to examine gameplay smoothness sadly.

An analysis of the frequency distribution of 100ms+ frame times wold be more useful to determine repeated glitches

 

[humbug]

That i agree ^^^^

We don't actually need any new threads for brand bashing at all, we don't need any full stop.

Everysingle AMD thread in this room has it, the only place you don't find brand bashing is in Nvidia threads.

You can have a thousand AMD threads, the bashing will go on in all of them, they are like a red rag to a bull.

 

[nashathedog]

When fanboys make ridiculous statements and troll bait expect others to respond.

It's the usual suspects, It doesn't matter how accurate or factual what's said may be if they do not like it they try to create a negative situation in the hope of deflecting attention away from the original statement.

 

[Gerard]

You can have a thousand AMD threads, the bashing will go on in all of them, they are like a red rag to a bull.

Bulls see in black and white so the colour is irrelevant

 

[humbug]

Bulls see in black and white so the colour is irrelevant

Thats very true and good point.

 

[mururoa]

In flagrante using terms and language that simple people like me find difficult to follow. Perhaps we can keep it in English.

Seeing you hail from Clausentum, I'd have expected you to feel right at home.