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The GPU war is over.
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What a ridiculous statement. You may not agree with his conclusions but he is hardly a "moron". He seems very intelligent and knowledgeable about said GPU market.
Side note. I wonder if Vega will be the last cards we see from AMD? Hope not.
Few people saying the 480 sold well. But it apears it didn't. Maybe to us folk browsing forums it sold well. But look at the figures. It sold terribly compared to the 1060.
It's all about branding and marketing and Nvidia has won.
I've seen it 100x even on this tech forum. Someone would come along and ask "best card for 1080p". And the unanimous cry would be "GTX 970". Even though we all know that the 390/390x was a much better choice for the same money. Hell it's got 8gb vram to the 3.5 on the 970. I watched that 100x times in the last 12 months.
Oh AMD understands business very very well. It's B2B is fantastic.
It just doesn't understand the business of selling a product to a 15-30 year old male.
But... did you actually watch the video??
It shows that historically when AMD had the FASTER, CHEAPER card. Nvidia still outsells them.
One thing that did make me laugh in the video was the guy said "Enthusiasts are the people who buy the faster and cheaper card".
That's what we do no? Unless we are fan boys? I bought the 390x instead of the 970 or 980 because it was faster and cheaper. And I did my research to find that out.
Might well have been, but when I was shopping for cards they were the two options. And yet when I asked. most people said get the GTX970....go figure.
Why do people believe too much in a single score in a benchmark? To me that's misinformed. Do not discount those who have years of experience buying products from both companies - those are the ones who are really informed,not those who look at some daft single score on a website obtained from an unrealistic benchmarking tool.
There's a lot more to a graphics card than it's benchmark performance.
To me, those who are new to graphics cards and only look on website for benchmarks are misinformed. People these days believe too much what they read or hear, that's why the world has brexit and trump
Or if you really want to be informed buy products from both companies and compare in real life scenario's. That's the only way to be sure .......
As an example, I bought a Gtx 260 216core before and the difference between it and the AMD card I owned was much more than the benchmark scores online suggested. The AMD card gave jerky, stuttering in some of the games I was playing, the Nvidia card was so much smoother, hence evidence benchmark scores are not the be all and end all of performance......and then there's the additional software to consider too.
I've had both Nvidia and AMD cards through the year. Historically about 50/50 of each. Always researching and going for whats best at the time. Irrespective of brand. Only recently I've actually taken favour with AMD over Nvidia due to things Nvidia has done and they way it has behaved.
For the first time in my life I can honestly say I would pay more for an identically performing AMD gpu over Nvidia, or indeed pay the same for a slightly slower card to buy from AMD. It's not even that I want to specifically support AMD. More i'm rather stubborn and wan't to spite Nvidia.
Sadly at the moment this basically means I can't upgrade my PC because there is nothing for me to buy.
Mate, you had to ask how to overclock and what is what with a GPU, so forgive me if I don't take you serious
Yeah mate, you were born pro. we know.
Yes you are right I had to ask a question when I was trying to overclock my card. Because I had never done it before and was getting weird results.
And you have never let me forget that have you? about half a douzen times you have mentioned it. made snidy comments about it.
I'm proud I am learning and had to ask questions mate. It's the only way I learn.
If you want to attack people for knowing less that you then that's your prerogative. Not a very good trait thou is it?
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You don't have to tinker to be an enthusiast. You have to be "enthusiastic".
Some people own 12 Ferraris and adore them and read all the magazines. They know what car was built where and when. But don't have a clue how an engine works. They are still enthusiasts.
That was a typo. No I had a 770 before my 390x. It was a great card but couldn't max out GTA V so I upgraded.
You typo'd a couple of times in that thread I see
And are you agreeing with me that you don't need to buy the cheaper card to be an enthusiast?
Indeed I did.
I was thinking about the 970 a lot because I was considering it for purchase. so was typing it instead of 770. probably due to lack of sleep also.
Here was my sale of my card. Just to satisfy your curiosity.
the 390x smashes the 970 into oblivion and beats the 980 in most if not nearly all (non gameworks) games. And yes. It was cheaper.
How is that not being able to beat it's rival?
My point was. As per the video. most people (Pre Pascal) always always recommended the 970 as Thee go to 1080p card. Even though it more than likely wasn't the best option. But thats mindshare. again as per the video. People own Nvidia therefore recommend Nvidia without even looking at the competition. Hell the 970 is one of the best selling cards of all time and doesn't even have enough VRAM to run GTA V properly. ...But it's got the fancy box art.
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Right. Fine.
You WILL find that at 1080p ultra the 970 WILL run out of VRAM in GTAV. That is fact and has been tested. Not to mention shadow of mordor and others.
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The most underlying problem now. Is that AND "can't win".
Lets say they released Vega that was the same speed as Titan xp. And priced it at £400. Even selling it as a loss.
Sure we would all buy it.... Well... Most of us.
But the general population would be weary of the "cheap" price. And just assume that it was Inferior.
So AMD have to price close to Nvidia... Where they also can't win because of mindshare. It's loose loose.
Lets say they released Vega that was the same speed as Titan xp. And priced it at £400. Even selling it as a loss.
Sure we would all buy it.... Well... Most of us.
But the general population would be weary of the "cheap" price. And just assume that it was Inferior.
So AMD have to price close to Nvidia... Where they also can't win because of mindshare. It's loose loose.