The great silent resignation, following the great resignation

m@rty said:
Doubt it
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Well your doubts are wrong. You can choose to believe it or not.

One of the cleaning companies used to clean the office I worked in. I wasn't working in a no super duper high security building surrounded by chemicals manufactured by Umbrella Corporation.

Similar reason at my old company the requirement was to have an degree for working in their call centre. When I questioned why that requirement was there, I was told it was to reduced the number of people applying. No degree, easily elimination , less admin for HR.
 
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Interesting thread

I work at a large tech firm, it doesn't pay that great compared to other tech firms in the South East, but the benefits are good and they are very flexible with work location, times you work, and how often you need to go in to the office.

There are mainly 2 camps of people who work there; those who are just relentless and work work work, and kind of live there job. They start out loving it, but many find it hard to
maintain the pace - they then leave the company or move into the second group.

The second group are all very competent, and put in the effort and hours when needed, but don't live there job - it's just a job.

Pre pandemic the first group was definitely the biggest, but post pandemic it's definitely a lot smaller than the second group

Not sure it's actually impacted the company's performance (yet) - but will be interesting to see what the company will try if it starts to hurt delivery in a noticeable way
 
BongoHunter said:
Interesting thread

I work at a large tech firm, it doesn't pay that great compared to other tech firms in the South East, but the benefits are good and they are very flexible with work location, times you work, and how often you need to go in to the office.

There are mainly 2 camps of people who work there; those who are just relentless and work work work, and kind of live there job. They start out loving it, but many find it hard to
maintain the pace - they then leave the company or move into the second group.

The second group are all very competent, and put in the effort and hours when needed, but don't live there job - it's just a job.

Pre pandemic the first group was definitely the biggest, but post pandemic it's definitely a lot smaller than the second group

Not sure it's actually impacted the company's performance (yet) - but will be interesting to see what the company will try if it starts to hurt delivery in a noticeable way
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I found this but with the additional phenomenon of folk quitting meaning those in group B are now doing slightly more work, and those in group A are actually achieving more output. We are so busy because we've lost so many folk that group A is less dog eat dog because there is the same amount of work (or more) divided over fewer people. A lot less time is spent on politics.

However because we are running so hot, I fear for the next FY or two as folk haven't been chasing the mega deals like they'd be starving for typically.
 
MissChief said:
I like what I heard last week over on the Antiwork subreddit. Acting your Wage.
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randomshenans said:
I think this sounds very reasonable. Waking up to the **** we have got used to for years.
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I follow the antiwork subreddit as well and while some of the content is spot on I do worry that people early on in their careers (at least in white collar / tech) might be missing a trick or at least be influenced to make a poor choice.

I can only speak from my own experience, but going the extra mile, and putting out great work (going above and beyond) when I first got into serious employment is the only reason why I managed to get to a senior position - if I'd only ever done the job I was paid for I'd probably be on 40k a year (which is simply not enough these days if you've got people to support and/or are living in the south east).

I agree with the antiwork sentiment - but there are consequences to choosing that path (though I would think they have less impact in retail / unskilled work).

Yes it's all unfair - but you can protest for a personal cost, or exploit it at the cost of short term pain.

Having said all that - you should never let an employer take the pea, exceptional work and effort are just that, and should not be expected day in day out.
 
I generally agree with you as well. Lots of the people on the antiwork subreddit do menial jobs. All of us who consider ourselves somewhat succesfull have had to be pushed or challenged by ourselves or others in some way.

I suppose the difference for a lot of people is it's more about being pushed to do extra hours and not being compensated for it. I've never done aditional hours, for example. I just worked well within my hours and work for a company that doesn't put too much emphasis on time.
 
I do agree and I'm not saying not to at all. For me, I will be very tactical with my work. That whole work smarter is true for me. Do the things with the most impact for the most influential people, the rest can be deprioritized. If I did it all, I'd be working like a dog. I'm not going to do that. You can both climb and set boundaries I think, but I agree with the sentiment about blanket saying don't put the effort in, or you have a whole work force of dossers. I don't doss at all, I just don't let it rule my life outside of the office, put myself first, take all my holidays, and maximise my time when at work to play the game.
 
randomshenans said:
I do agree and I'm not saying not to at all. For me, I will be very tactical with my work. That whole work smarter is true for me. Do the things with the most impact for the most influential people, the rest can be deprioritized. If I did it all, I'd be working like a dog. I'm not going to do that. You can both climb and set boundaries I think, but I agree with the sentiment about blanket saying don't put the effort in, or you have a whole work force of dossers. I don't doss at all, I just don't let it rule my life outside of the office, put myself first, take all my holidays, and maximise my time when at work to play the game.
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You definitely have to learn what's worth doing and what's not. My boss has so many ideas, if you executed all of them nothing would ever happen. I learnt, years ago, to do about 50% of what he asked for and then he could gauge whether it's worth it later on. But I do doss a bit :)
 
After seeing what this "silent resignation" / "quiet quitting" actually was, I then realised I've actually been doing it the last 15 years lol

No overtime, never have. I adjust my living standards to the base pay. It becomes a slippery slope when you start doing overtime and then become used to doing it and then living as if that's your standard income, only for it to suddenly stop and you're screwed. I've seen it happen time and time again.

I just do what is required to keep me off the radar, when it's my finish time, that's me done and work is forgotten about until I have to sign on the next morning. I'm not one for an extravagent life, nor do I crave one. I have no interest in having lots of responsibility, and managerial posts hold no interest to me whatsoever. As long as I have enough to cover my bills and some left over to spend on what I like, then that's plenty.
 
MissChief said:
Both quiet quitters interviewed were denied pay rises despite doing more than their job description, likely for months, potentially a year or more. Which doesn’t surprise me.
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I don't think this quiet quitting thing is a thing... those got fed up of being mugged off, and then got another job? So, just quitting? Or, just getting new jobs? I struggle to see this as more than not putting up with **** companies?
 
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