The high definition generation and lack of standardisation

i already have? you arent willing to do anything. until you do, nobody is going to listen to you lol. what you are saying is completely polar to what we've all experianced for ourself and again with another post of yours....nothing meaningful.

so lets just agree to disagree, and ill be safe in the knowledge that no cable i have tried has offered any advantage over another. you can laugh all you want about my little cat5 comment there, but ask yourself why hasnt it been done? digital signals over a multi-cored cable. not disimilar to a hdmi lead is it? why arent there snake-oil cat5's? because it isnt AV and people arent fooled by it....
ol @ the ninja edit. .

Its also what ive said all along! Several times in fact.
I sit in the middle, i wont spend uber money on a cable, nor will i spend peanuts.
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yes. ironic accusing me of not reading.
 
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BoomAM said:
lol @ the ninja edit. :p.

Its also what ive said all along! Several times in fact.
I sit in the middle, i wont spend uber money on a cable, nor will i spend peanuts.
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That makes even less sense than paying £60 for one. At least with the £60 cable, you're getting /some/ peace of mind. If you're lucky, you might actually see a.. what? 3% pq increase? Something like that.

By spending £20 on a cable, you aren't getting the 'benefits' of a £60 cable, and you are £15 worse off.
 
BoomAM said:
Unless your willing to backup your opinion, why should i do so either?
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Well, I could do boring technical analysis and get down and dirty with details about voltages, signal patterns, electrical interference, yada yada but I have a feeling the people who apparently see a difference wouldn't care.

Edit: FWIW Monster go on about cross-talk and all that jazz but it's absolutely irrelevant for 99.999% of people.

The day Monster enter the networking cable arena and try to persuade us that their cables will route our traffic better is the day I'll hold my hands up and agree with you.

Until then, you're seeing something which simply doesn't exist. Provided you don't have a faulty cable and have one which is up to the job (just like nobody would run gigabit ethernet over a cable which wasn't cat 5e)
 
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oooh, i especially like this:
http://www.hdmi.org/installers/longcablelengths.aspx

HDMI over Cat 5/6

Runs of up to 50 meters can be achieved by sending the HDMI signal over a run of Cat 5/6 networking cable, using special adapters designed for this purpose. As with the active cable solutions discussed above, they incorporate booster and equalization electronics at each end of the path, and require external power. Because of its tighter manufacturing tolerances, Cat 6 cable is generally preferred over Cat 5 in these applications.
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hdmi can be sent over 50meters of cat5. forget the use of boosters ect for a second, and concentrate on cat5/6 being capable of carrying the signal. it makes the question even more relevate - why arent there spruced up cat 5 cables? what does this all tell you?
 
Beansprout said:
Just common examples :)
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Fair enough. :).

Still shocks me that people will pay £20+ for 'Xbox Connectivity Cables' or for a cat cable from a high street shop, when they're literally just cat cables.
They pay £20+ for 1-2m cables that are just booted cables.

£20 will get you 20m Cat5, or 15m Cat6 if they knew!

Daylight robbery that! :p
 
BoomAM said:
Fair enough. :).

Still shocks me that people will pay £20+ for 'Xbox Connectivity Cables' or for a cat cable from a high street shop, when they're literally just cat cables.
They pay £20+ for 1-2m cables that are just booted cables.

£20 will get you 20m Cat5, or 15m Cat6 if they knew!

Daylight robbery that! :p
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Probably the same people who spend £40 on a HDMI cable :p
 
Does anyone know where i can get a booster for my aerial. My freeview picture looks a little soft and fuzzy and could do with sharpening up...
 
IT's okay to have duff digital cables (though I still believe there is a difference, just very minimal and only really noticeable over a tiny distance), but on analogue the quality of cable is very, very important.
 
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