the moon and americans

nitros11 said:
if they did land on the moon in 1969 than why havnt we been back since. its 2006 and we cant ever land on the moon today what makes you think we could back then.
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It's a good point. The original craft was clockwork!

Anyway, maybe aliens have other plans for the moon.
 
nitros11 said:
if they did land on the moon in 1969 than why havnt we been back since.
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  • Apollo 11 - July 16, 1969. First manned landing on the Moon, July 20.
  • Apollo 12 - November 14, 1969. First precise manned landing on the Moon.
  • Apollo 14 - January 31, 1971. Alan Shepard, the sole astronaut of the Mercury MR-3 mission, walks on the Moon.
  • Apollo 15 - July 26, 1971. First mission with the Lunar Rover vehicle.
  • Apollo 16 - April 16, 1972. First landing in the lunar highlands.
  • Apollo 17 - December 7, 1972. Final Apollo lunar mission, first night launch, only mission with a professional geologist.


nitros11 said:
its 2006 and we cant ever land on the moon today what makes you think we could back then.
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Who says we can't land on the moon today?
 
Arcade Fire said:
It's like we're in an alternate reality where the first five or so posts of this thread don't exist.
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well 2 and 3 were links. I dont have the time or energy to click on links. and the ones after that dont seem to mention anything about it being against the law.
 
nitros11 said:
if they did land on the moon in 1969 than why havnt we been back since. its 2006 and we cant ever land on the moon today what makes you think we could back then.
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Is there any reason why we should go back to the moon at the moment? Not exactly much to see!

Taken from the moonestates.com website:

With regard to extraterrestrial property sales, two treaties exist today.

These treaties do not refer to "ownership" as such, they more commonly refer to the "exploitation of the Moon and other celestial bodies for profit purposes", and extraterrestrial property sales distinctly fall under that section. The treaties are, The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 and the Moon Treaty of 1984.

The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 explicitly forbids any government from claiming a celestial resource such as the Moon or a planet.

What does this mean? Well it means that governments can not appropriate the Moon or other celestial bodies. Effectively, governments have signed to the fact that they have no rights to these bodies at all. What is actually important here is what the Outer Space Treaty does not say. It explicitly does not say whether commercial enterprises or private individuals can claim, exploit or appropriate the celestial bodies for profit. (Note that the Lunar Embassy is not a government body.)

The United Nations and all countries that signed the Outer Space Treaty became aware of this vital omission almost immediately after the treaty was ratified in 1967. In fact, the United Nations have expended a large amount of time trying to ratify an amendment to the treaty ever since, that would explicitly include corporations and individuals. All attempts at ratifying such an amendment failed because member states did not agree with it. So, in the end, all the ratification attempts were summarized into the famous Moon Treaty some 15 years later. This information is a well documented fact today.
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Anyone remember that episode of "Where is Carmen Sandiago"? The one where she wanted to paint the whole moon red and black in her symbol!

Classic stuff...
 
Docaroo said:
Anyone remember that episode of "Where is Carmen Sandiago"? The one where she wanted to paint the whole moon red and black in her symbol!

Classic stuff...
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Not as good as the episode of The Tick where Chairhead (?) tried to carve his name onto the moon using a big laser :cool: Got part of it done aswell :D
 
Arcade Fire said:
  • Apollo 11 - July 16, 1969. First manned landing on the Moon, July 20.
  • Apollo 12 - November 14, 1969. First precise manned landing on the Moon.
  • Apollo 14 - January 31, 1971. Alan Shepard, the sole astronaut of the Mercury MR-3 mission, walks on the Moon.
  • Apollo 15 - July 26, 1971. First mission with the Lunar Rover vehicle.
  • Apollo 16 - April 16, 1972. First landing in the lunar highlands.
  • Apollo 17 - December 7, 1972. Final Apollo lunar mission, first night launch, only mission with a professional geologist.
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been there done that, thats why we've not been back. there isnt anything exciting on the moon so why throw more money at another moon landing - doesnt make sense... plus its not as though its going anywhere (except round and round the earth that is :p)
 
I like this entry

Apollo 12 - November 14, 1969. First precise manned landing on the Moon.

Precise? What were the other landings then? :p
 
If you cant enforce a law, it doesn't exist... I expect the moon belongs to whoever is big enough and hard enough to have it
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Not really. That's maybe a pragmatic approach but in reality the UK could make it illegal for French people to eat garlic. If it's a statute then it's our law but we could never enforce it.

So anyone can claim to own the moon by law, although it's true that you wouldn't own it in practice unless you exercised some level of control over it.
 
Arcade Fire said:
I thought that it was common knowledge that we've visited the moon six times. Weird.
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I think you'll find its common knowledge (myth) that those who believe man landed on the moon only did it once. I've seen so many posts over the last four years on here every time this subject comes up saying "Why didn't we go back?". Of course you and me know different. I asked this question to about 12 over 40's in the mess room and it caused a right argument. 8 said we landed once and 4 said we landed twice and I had to print out the evidence that it was 6 times.
 
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