The near future of F1 is looking dull..

F1 survived the 2008 global downturn with just as many Government subsidized circuits as we have now. The calendar has actually grown in numbers over that time.

The global economy has a much larger effect on the teams than the venues, as shown by Renault, Honda, Toyota and BMW all bailing in/around 2009.

So what you would end up with is a 20+ race calendar in random countries nobody cares about, on boring tracks nobody likes, with no fans watching, and very few cars on the grid.

:/
 
There has to be a tipping point.

If enough fans desert the value to the ppv TV broadcasters will be too low
And F1 will have to drop it's prices

Probably a long way from that now..
 
I hope we at least get decent racing, for the "best of the rest" positions.
Mercedes 1-2 at every race, unless there's driver mistakes, or reliability...

The most interesting point of the race weekends, is usually Ted's notebook.
 
There has to be a tipping point.

If enough fans desert the value to the ppv TV broadcasters will be too low
And F1 will have to drop it's prices

Probably a long way from that now..

The PPV broadcasters will just do what Sky does, bundle F1 into a larger package that covers its cost.

Sky Sports F1 is only available in the Sports pack now, and is utterly insignificant in that given the other sports (Football) that dominate the 7 channels. I expect 90% of the people who have SSF1 never watch it.
 
The PPV broadcasters will just do what Sky does, bundle F1 into a larger package that covers its cost.

Sky Sports F1 is only available in the Sports pack now, and is utterly insignificant in that given the other sports (Football) that dominate the 7 channels. I expect 90% of the people who have SSF1 never watch it.

I have no idea of football costs and I expect it's probably worth it to sky just to boost its monopoly?

I dunno, you would think if a fraction of a percentage watched it, it wouldnt be worth it.

As always I'll watch the first race, decide if it predicts the Wdc and WCC and then (as I'm sure it will) just watch the odd highlights show like last year
 
I have no idea of football costs and I expect it's probably worth it to sky just to boost its monopoly?

I dunno, you would think if a fraction of a percentage watched it, it wouldnt be worth it.

As always I'll watch the first race, decide if it predicts the Wdc and WCC and then (as I'm sure it will) just watch the odd highlights show like last year

My point is, if you pay Sky for the F1 channel, they don't care if you then watch it or not.

Whereas commercial/free to air channels like Channel 4 need to ensure people tune in every week to watch in order to keep the viewing figures high in order to keep people paying for adverts.

Sky get the same money is they have 1 million subscribers to the Sport Pack and 1 person watches F1 as they would do if they had 1 million subscribers and 1 million of them watch F1.

Once you move to Pay TV, viewer numbers become less important, and subscribers numbers is the key metric. I wonder how many people have the Sports Pack?

Edit: There aren't any absolute numbers, but people have extrapolated the figures based on viewers of big Football matches to assume 50%+ of Sky customers have Sports. With around 10 million subscribers, that means about 5 million people with Sports, all paying for the F1 channel.
 
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My point is, if you pay Sky for the F1 channel, they don't care if you then watch it or not.

Whereas commercial/free to air channels like Channel 4 need to ensure people tune in every week to watch in order to keep the viewing figures high in order to keep people paying for adverts.

Sky get the same money is they have 1 million subscribers to the Sport Pack and 1 person watches F1 as they would do if they had 1 million subscribers and 1 million of them watch F1.

Once you move to Pay TV, viewer numbers become less important, and subscribers numbers is the key metric. I wonder how many people have the Sports Pack?

Edit: There aren't any absolute numbers, but people have extrapolated the figures based on viewers of big Football matches to assume 50%+ of Sky customers have Sports. With around 10 million subscribers, that means about 5 million people with Sports, all paying for the F1 channel.

I'm for thinking for sky that if only one viewer watches sky F1 then sky is making a massive loss on paying for F1 rights. As they'd only lose one viewer and save the cost of the F1 contact

At some point they must look at that
 
Cancelled my sky today, tbh we kept it on purely because our internet sucked and the Mrs loved all her Sky One shows. We got it for F1 but we have both lost interest. Now our internet is decent we can just watch what we want through Netflix and Now TV and save £30 a month.

Sick of stupid regulation changes and knee jerk reactions to things that don't matter while what does I have been waiting to be fixed since 1998. I'm done, will watch the highlights if something amazing happens when I have read BBC news.
 
I have no idea of football costs and I expect it's probably worth it to sky just to boost its monopoly?

I dunno, you would think if a fraction of a percentage watched it, it wouldnt be worth it.

As always I'll watch the first race, decide if it predicts the Wdc and WCC and then (as I'm sure it will) just watch the odd highlights show like last year

Most weeks the Premier League football is the most watched program on Sky. We get weekly 'most viewed' programs on the main sky channels and save for the likes of GoT on Atlantic the football usually numbers around 1.5-2 million viewers. In essence Sky's customers expect the majority of the PL to be on Sky Sports, which then means Sky also need the football on Sky Sports, hence the insane amount Sky paid for it. The FA's blind auction policy has dramatically increased the cost to Sky and to BT and it's likely to be higher next time unless everyone involved in the bidding refuses to make a single bid. Which won't happen as BT will want to get more and can afford it too.
 
zzzzzzzzzzz

I don't even know what to say after this dull quali.

anyway after seeing that merc dominate yet again, I am going to skip yet another mind numbingly boring F1 season.

on a brigher note, looking forward to Lemans with the battle between Corvette v GT40
 
Actually if you go there and walk the track you will see that it is at least double the width of Monaco in many places, and even wider in other places.
majority of it makes Monaco look like a single track road, and there is overtaking in Monaco, so should be in Baku, yes turns 8 & 9 are quite narrow but still wide enough to allow two cars through side by side.
 
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