The Obama Deception

Monkey Puzzle said:
You've mistaken derailing with 'asking for some logical answers and proof to back up wild claims'. It's a shame you can't see the difference.
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I'm guessing you haven't read many of Evan's posts in other threads.

He generally follows a pattern of extreme nit picking, then putting words in your mouth, followed swiftly by childish name calling and belittling.

Because he attacks you and "pretends" to ask question it looks like he's asking to prove your opinions, yet all he's doing is baiting you into a "here is my proof" argument at which point people like your self side with him and the process carries on.

So why do i post this, for other people who are interested.
 
meh, i don't believe in all the conspiracy stuff at all but I'm shocked this is the first real thread on Obama since his "final" withdrawing from Iraq plan was confirmed/announced.

Considering Obama's main, and really only traction point in the race against Hilary was her plan to pull out of Iraq in a controlled slow withdrawal over 18 months, while Obama ran around promising to withdraw the troops immediately, infact it was his only real idea in his campaign for 6 months.

Yet shockingly, he's just said he's going to do what, McCann and Hilary said they'd do, pull out within 2-3 years in a controlled manor.

For me it was by far his largest campaign promise, the main thing that got him in over Hilary(democrats were always going to win the actual election, its never NOT happened that the party in power has changed when the pres has had such massively low polling numbers) is a wash. Personally, what with him quietly changing his promise almost the second he beat Hillary, I'm not surprised.

The thing is, the presidency doesn't and hasn't mattered for a few terms at least. Its a figure head, big business has run the country for a long time, its not a conspiracy though, why would it be. Capitalism, the very idea is based on gaining wealth and power, they go hand in hand. You can't have capitalism without corruption and greed.

But why do people expect anything less, I mean seriously. If you ran a billion dollar company and went to social events with politicians, you wouldn't be pushing your agenda and trying to get people on "your side".

I really don't get why conspiracy theorists make a huge deal out of, well, things that make perfect sense and couldn't possibly work any other way. Why wouldn't governments do things in the interest of business, so their countries economies could collapse and everyone with money moves to other countries, how would that be good for any country?
 
Teki187 said:
Oh know its Knives, part of the OCUK forum elite.

I best back down.

Terribly sorry
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You've derailed the thread essentially posting gibberish with nothing to back it up other than videos full of more proof-less gibberish.

Maybe if you'd gone off and collected some evidence yourself or seen what you believe is happening with your own eyes then you'd have some sort of credibility but all you appear to do is watch conspiracy videos and read conspiracy websites.

If anything, it's not the bankers controlling you, it's the people that write the crap you so happily swallow down :rolleyes:
 
int said:
You've derailed the thread essentially posting gibberish with nothing to back it up other than videos full of more proof-less gibberish.

Maybe if you'd gone off and collected some evidence yourself or seen what you believe is happening with your own eyes then you'd have some sort of credibility but all you appear to do is watch conspiracy videos and read conspiracy websites.

If anything, it's not the bankers controlling you, it's the people that write the crap you so happily swallow down :rolleyes:
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Well if you read my OP, i never said "here is proof" etc etc.

I wasn't aiming to prove anything, just sharing something that i found interesting and i know some others do to.

Derailing started.....right here

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13671563&postcount=8
 
Teki, when are you going to start realising that what you post makes no sense. Why do you believe everything that every conspiracy website says and completely ignore rational argument?
 
Teki187 said:
Lol ignore all that rubbish. I WERE HAVING A LUL. I don't really believe any of this conspirational nonsense, I just thought I'd liven up the forum a bit (I secretly enjoy having abuse hurled at me).
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Teki187 said:
Derailing started.....right here
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I think it went a bit squiffy at #1



It it were all a conspiracy (or twelve), do you not think that they'd try a bit harder to keep it a secret?
 
p4radox said:
Teki, when are you going to start realising that what you post makes no sense. Why do you believe everything that every conspiracy website says and completely ignore rational argument?
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First off i don't believe everything. If you check some of magicks posts, I'm not agreeing with his opinion.

So clearly i don't believe in everything that is put in front of me.

There has been no rational argument
 
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tibbsey said:
Fixed.





I think it went a bit squiffy at #1



It it were all a conspiracy (or twelve), do you not think that they'd try a bit harder to keep it a secret?
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I care very little for peoples opinion on this sub forum.

Especially the "forum elite"
 
I've never been classed as "elite" before.
Thank you. :)



My question regarding the secrecy of the aforementioned conspiracy still stands though.
 
The Clinton administration was a failure

The Bush administration was a failure

I hope the Obama administration isn't but he has put the US in more debt?! And wants more troops in Afghanistan and has done sod all on the middle east but perhaps he will do the change he keeps going on about in time
 
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teik: do you believe this stuff to justify your own failure in life? you know the whole "how can teki make it if the prez of usa is making him a slave", so therefore teki failing at life is not his own fault sort of nonsense?

edit: and also what makes no sense what so ever, is if obama was a slave to banks to enslave humanity so that we stay poor and then somehow they are rich even though we are all poor so some how they'll have money from us or something idk, but any way why would obama bring troops back home and not send more out there to steal the money from iraq/russia/uk? why would obama put more money towards stem cell? whats the point? he is the boss so can just take our money now, why pretend to be nice spending money when it will get him no further into making us a slave then if he just did it straight out? or are we not brainwashed enough yet like teki is so obama making us slaves (which is what the conspiracy people have made teki so so easily lol) wont work yet?
 
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