The [[Offical]] ATI vs NVIDIA thread

[rhys216]

 

[stulid]

All that chart shows, is nvidia sell a lot more units than anyone else! So will naturally have a higher crash rate than ati. How many of these crashes were do to operator error? Poorly set up pc hardware/software?

 

[Hoodlum]

I bet you 20% of those Nvidia crashes are me

All that chart shows, is nvidia sell a lot more units than anyone else! So will naturally have a higher crash rate than ati. How many of these crashes were do to operator error? Poorly set up pc hardware/software?

ATI have 19.9% market share Nvidia have 24% intel have the rest according to the latest statistics. Keep in mind just because it shows the crash caused by a driver doesn't actually mean it is, though.

 

[Xelene]

Whatever offers the best performance at the price range i'm comfortable with. Currently a 4890, had an 8800 GTS before that, and an X800 GTO before that.

 

[Jason1973]

I feel a majority of people remember the bad experiences they have.
I remember the problems with updating drivers with my Radeon 9800pro.
I moved to Nvidia with the 8800GTX and having the funds went SLI. Performance was great, but driver problems and support (early on) not so good.
Even Vista refused to install with both cards, (but that could have been Vista at fault).
But until the release of the fermi (whenever that arrives) Nvidia havent really improved on the 8800. Rebranded, adjusted, repackaged and remarketed, yes but nothing major in the way of improvement.
I am back in the ATI camp with a 5770, support for dx11 (when games come out), hmdi, cool, quiet and a single card.
I cant complain about this card yet (I will wait until I try crossfire and upgrade the catalist drivers).
Which is better, for me its ATi for its improvements, but as with all things to do with PC's the king wont be the king for long.

 

[angela]

had HD4850-HD4870 = both cracking cards
also had GTX260, now on GTX280 = same

no difference at all, but physix is nice future

 

[psychas]

well i swapped 4870 1 gig to gigabyte 260 soc got bored with ati used it for a year hopefully hold on till second gen dx 11

 

[gary996]

Use to use Nvidia for a long time. Last cards were 7800GTX then the 8800GTX.both were cracking cards. Then in their wisdom they started rebranding then rebranding and then yes you guessed it more rebranding. Moved over to the 4870X2 must say a very nice card. Was going to be an early adopter of the 5970 but have decided to wait. I keep hovering over the buy button but think I will still wait.Need to see whay Nvidia has to offer and how much it will cost.Then I will choose

 

[wakayoda]

if it lasts along time like the 8800 I would be happy to pay 150+ but for now I am content with a 9600 GSO for £45, I can still play the games and enjoy them as much as someone that has a £500 GPU

 

[kieves1]

While some toy company that puts toxic chemicals in kids toys, to save a buck, are evil and should be left to die when no one uses them.

I work for a toy company We arent all evil mate.

 

[Biffa]

I remember when it used to be:
Amiga vs Atari vs Apple *all vs Pc
Creative vs Gravis Ultrasound
Nvidia vs 3dfx

MCIBTYC so ner!

And I don't think I've ever been called a fanboi in the latest round of Nvidia vs Ati.

 

[kylew]

I remember when it used to be:
Amiga vs Atari vs Apple *all vs Pc
Creative vs Gravis Ultrasound
Nvidia vs 3dfx

MCIBTYC so ner!

And I don't think I've ever been called a fanboi in the latest round of Nvidia vs Ati.

Fanboy!

 

[forest4]

the nvidia 295 is just too expensive to be a realistic alternative even though its faster than the 5870, not available anyway.

Um, WHAT? The single card 5870 is faster than the dual-GPU GTX 295, and the power consumtion is so much smaller.

I think that the ATI VS Nvidia all comes down to packaging. Nvidia has a slick Black and Green packaging scheme, VS ATI's Black and Red scheme.

When I heard that Quake 4 had been released, it was WAAY after the fact. I had not heard of its release until about 3/4 of a year after its release I think, because I was into my Playstation 2 until then. The Quake 4 packaging is, you gressed it: Black and Green! I even bought Quake 4 Ultamite Edition for PC before I even had a PC of my own to play it on. I installed it on my Dad's PC, but it ran at about 1 frame per second
I bought my PC for Quake 4 and for Quake 4 alone. I had no other game in mind. I had played every Quake up until then. Big ID Software fan.

I bought a refurbished PC: Intel CeleronD 3.33 GHz CPU and a 103 GB hard drive. Only onboard graphics, the idea was to buy a GPU after the fact. But long after I bought it, I was informed that my motherboard only supported Nvidia cards, not ATI. I was honestly quite disappointed.

I ended up buying a PNY 8500GT, since it supported DirectX 10. Sound familiar? Like today's DirectX 11 battle royale? And a 700W PSU. That is one thing about Nvidia GPUs, they suck up power like a black hole. But it was all good, I put the PNY 8500GT's box (Black and Green) next to the Quake 4 Ultamite Edition box (Black and Green). I helt all warm and fuzzy!

Quake 4 ran well at 800x600, no AA. I could play it on Ultra High settings in Singleplayer, but on Ultra High it was too choppy in multiplayer. So, in multiplayer I turned it down a notch to High Settings.

Finally, now, I am building a new PC:
Core i7 920
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1 GB
6 GB Partiot RAM @ 1600 MHz
Lite-On Blu Ray Drive @ 4x speed
1 TB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive
1200W ANTEC Power Supply
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard: Supports both 3x SLI and 3x CrossfireX (16x, 16x, 8x slots)

Now, it is time for Radeon to deliver the knockout blow to Geforce!

And by the way, when I bought my copy of Quake 4 Ultamite Edition for PC, it was the last copy of the Ultamite edition the store had. And a month later, the store I had bought Quake 4 from went out of business. And when I bought Quake 4, they had already stopped making it! I was so lucky to get a copy! And the cashier even made a stupid remark at me that made me angry for buying Quake 4 Ultamite Ed. for $30 and made me want to swear at him. I remeber he said I was stupid or something to his coworker like I was not standing right in front of him, and he looked like he was drunk maybe, even though he was at work. Weird. Well, after that, he had to look for a different job in the cold cold rain, while I was cumfy cozy playing Quake 4!

 

[kylew]

Um, WHAT? The single card 5870 is faster than the dual-GPU GTX 295, and the power consumtion is so much smaller.

On average, the 295 is very slightly faster, nothing really noticeable though, the 5870 isn't "out right" faster though.

I think that the ATI VS Nvidia all comes down to packaging. Nvidia has a slick Black and Green packaging scheme, VS ATI's Black and Red scheme. When I heard that Quake 4 had been released, it was WAAY after the fact. I had not heard of its release until about 3/4 of a year after its release I think, because I was into my Playstation 2 until then. The Quake 4 packaging is, you gressed it: Black and Green!

What?

I bought a refurbished PC: Intel CeleronD 3.33 GHz CPU and a 103 GB hard drive. Only onboard graphics, the idea was to buy a GPU after the fact. But long after I bought it, I was informed that my motherboard only supported Nvidia cards, not ATI. I was honestly quite disappointed.

LOL you got skanked. This person that told you this, they aren't an nVidia fanboy are they?

I ended up buying a PNY 8500GT, since it supported DirectX 10. Sound familiar? Like today's DirectX 11 battle royale? And a 700W PSU. That is one thing about Nvidia GPUs, they suck up power like a black hole. But it was all good, I put the PNY 8500GT's box (Black and Green) next to the Quake 4 Ultamite Edition box (Black and Green). I helt all warm and fuzzy!

8500 GTs were utter junk, they never had a chance at playing DX10 games, hardly like DX11 HIGH END cards now, and the colour schemes again? What's up with that?

Quake 4 ran well at 800x600, no AA. I could play it on Ultra High settings in Singleplayer, but on Ultra High it was too choppy in multiplayer. So, in multiplayer I turned it down a notch to High Settings.

8500GT was utter junk, I had an X1600Pro when quake 4 came out, it played it fine on max settings.

And by the way, when I bought my copy of Quake 4 Ultamite Edition for PC, it was the last copy of the Ultamite edition the store had. And a month later, the store I had bought Quake 4 from went out of business. And when I bought Quake 4, they had already stopped making it! I was so lucky to get a copy! And the cashier even made a stupid remark at me that made me angry for buying Quake 4 Ultamite Ed. for $30 and made me want to swear at him. I remeber he said I was stupid or something to his coworker like I was not standing right in front of him, and he looked like he was drunk maybe, even though he was at work. Weird. Well, after that, he had to look for a different job in the cold cold rain, while I was cumfy cozy playing Quake 4!

Cool story, Bro!

 

[Chris Beard]

That's not a monologue about Nvidia and ATI, that's a story about how insolent people who turn up to work drunk deserve everything they get!

 

[forest4]

On average, the 295 is very slightly faster, nothing really noticeable though, the 5870 isn't "out right" faster though.

You have to admit that it is still a technical victory. I mean come on, a single GPU card VS a dual? rofl

LOL you got skanked. This person that told you this, they aren't an nVidia fanboy are they?

He told me that AMD made their own motherboards for their video cards, and that Intel was like a partner to Nvidia. So if I wanted a Radeon, I would have to go AMD instead of Intel for my CPU.

8500 GTs were utter junk, they never had a chance at playing DX10 games, hardly like DX11 HIGH END cards now, and the colour schemes again? What's up with that?

Yeah, I just wanted a cheap, but good, video card. I thought I would get a good-value-for-good-performance ATI Radeon card, but the technician broke the news to me that Nvidia was my only option, and DirectX 10 looked cool and shiny. And the colour schemes really matter, in the mind's eye, I think. I am not the first to mention colour schemes, and how "Green is better than Red."

Cool story, Bro!

Thanks!

 

[Alexrose1uk]

He told me that AMD made their own motherboards for their video cards, and that Intel was like a partner to Nvidia. So if I wanted a Radeon, I would have to go AMD instead of Intel for my CPU.

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Yeah, I just wanted a cheap, but good, video card. I thought I would get a good-value-for-good-performance ATI Radeon card, but the technician vroke the news to me that Nvidia was my only option, and DirectX 10 looked cool and shiny. And the colour schemes really matter, in the mind's eye, I think. I am not the first to mention colour schemes, and how "Green os better than Red."
!

He lied.
They make thier own chipsets to go on motherboards for DUAL card setups, however any motherboard should take ANY single card of the same form factor.

Even if you had an Nvidia chipset on your mobo, you'd have been able to use an ATI card.

 

[Chris Beard]

nm

 

[forest4]

He lied.
They make thier own chipsets to go on motherboards for DUAL card setups, however any motherboard should take ANY single card of the same form factor.

Even if you had an Nvidia chipset on your mobo, you'd have been able to use an ATI card.

WOW! All this time I was convinced that my only option was Nvidia!

 

[Chris Beard]

Sounds like your seller was mis-informed rather than trying to push you one way or the other.

I'm going to guess this one is down the people in purple shirts. Do they still wear purple?