That being the key thing - if you choose to go for goto then you'll probably end up getting half the aperture for the same price.
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That being the key thing - if you choose to go for goto then you'll probably end up getting half the aperture for the same price.
Under £200 the best beginner scope would most likely be the 150P Dob, which would get you some pretty amazing views... but imaging is completely different, you can't say what you'll see because the human eye is nothing like a digital (or an emulsion) sensor. As said there are very few nebulae you'd be able to see colour in without a huge scope, but 6" is a very good place to start out (
).I got my first scope about 6 years ago, and it was a dob. I think it is perfect for a beginner, but i could understand wanting to upgrade(if that is the right word) to something with a goto mount if you wanted to do some photography, or if you don't like star-hopping(which can get frustrating when you first start). I'm happy with my Dob though, finding things is half of the fun
I would definitely say that if you do not get a goto scope, there is no point in getting anything other than a dob though. IMO, the perfect starter scope is the 130p Heritage. I'm not sure it's worth the extra for the 150p. I can say that it is very big and with a scope when you first start, being able to easily move it whenever you feel like is very important
I would definitely say that if you do not get a goto scope, there is no point in getting anything other than a dob though. IMO, the perfect starter scope is the 130p Heritage. I'm not sure it's worth the extra for the 150p. I can say that it is very big and with a scope when you first start, being able to easily move it whenever you feel like is very important
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It can be the bane of your life, but unless you live directly under a streetlight and have nowhere nearby to take your kit it's not a complete game-stopper.
I got my first scope about 6 years ago, and it was a dob. I think it is perfect for a beginner, but i could understand wanting to upgrade(if that is the right word) to something with a goto mount if you wanted to do some photography, or if you don't like star-hopping(which can get frustrating when you first start). I'm happy with my Dob though, finding things is half of the fun
I would definitely say that if you do not get a goto scope, there is no point in getting anything other than a dob though. IMO, the perfect starter scope is the 130p Heritage. I'm not sure it's worth the extra for the 150p. I can say that it is very big and with a scope when you first start, being able to easily move it whenever you feel like is very important
The 130P is a great little scope, great for carrying around - but it's cheap for a reason. Not saying it's bad, or that you wouldn't be able to see anything in it, but the extra for the 150P makes a real difference; from the focuser to the solid tube to the extra aperture, everything's just that much better. So 130P = cheap and chereful, 150P = slightly less cheap but doesn't feel like a beginner scope, feels like a low end 'serious' scope.
Cheers last one, so in laymans terms what the difference between the dob 130?? flexi tube and the 150p ??
Whats the extra £60 get me in terms of kit and more importantly what i can see in them
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Whats the extra £60 get me in terms of kit and more importantly what i can see in them
edit *** how did you answer the question before i asked it ?
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Under £200 the best beginner scope would most likely be the 150P Dob, which would get you some pretty amazing views... but imaging is completely different, you can't say what you'll see because the human eye is nothing like a digital (or an emulsion) sensor. As said there are very few nebulae you'd be able to see colour in without a huge scope, but 6" is a very good place to start out (
What other equipment and cost etc is needed to take pictures/videos of the images?
Do you need to be outside with a camera, laptop and telescope all connected together?
Sorry to sound noobish but if its thousands of pounds were talking im out lol
Such a great hobby though, and where i live at night it is pitch black, so i would love goign into my garden and looking up and thinking about whats out there.
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I would be interested in seeing.
Our council have decided to turn all streets lights off after midnight it's great.
I'm good
It's probably not a good idea to jump straight in to imaging... but with a beginner scope on a dob mount you can image the moon by holding a phone camera up to the eyepiece, maybe a planet or two the same way. Then you have webcam imaging, with which you can get better pictures of the moon, planets and maybe some really bright DSOs.
But then you get the bug and start wanting to do proper imaging, for which you need a good equatorial mount, tracking motors and a DSLR or dedicated astrophotography camera and a ton of other stuff, which often costs upwards of £1k. So yeah, for just starting out you'll probably want to stick to observing and very basic imagin
Whilst i agree with the rest of your post, suggesting that the Heritage is merely "Cheap and cheerful" is not quite right imo, It is a very good scope indeed. A mate of mine has one and i was very impressed with it. I would certainly say it a littel bit better than your average beginner scope.
Here are some reviews
http://telescopereviewsuk.wordpress...er-heritage-130-flextube-dobsonian-telescope/
I do however agree that the 150p is a better scope minaly due to extra aperture and will probably last you longer, but i'm not sure which one i would pick out of them if i could only have one. As a beginner, i might end up going for the 130p and spending the saved £60 on some quality eyepieces and maybe a Barlow
Lucky, i might actually get some sleep at nights if they decided to turn off the one that's shining directly into my bedroom window. Nah, there's a field that's a good distance away from any streetlights i often go to for observing, which was great until somebody decided to stick **** off big security lights on their warehouse practically a km away shining straight onto the field
It's got better lately, i think they pointed them towards the ground or something, but still... you have to wonder what the consequences are of a society that never sleeps.
And pig, i agree - i just wasn't sure how to word it without coming across as biased
Incidentally:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2307
Somewhat clear skies tonight, i might go out later with the binos (well, i might have been out now if not having just spent an hour trying and failing to figure out a way to mount them to a tripod)
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2307
Somewhat clear skies tonight, i might go out later with the binos (well, i might have been out now if not having just spent an hour trying and failing to figure out a way to mount them to a tripod)
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Do your bins have a threaded front?
If they do, you need an adapter. I got one with my Celestron 60x15 bins. They do ideally need to be mounted of course!
If they do, you need an adapter. I got one with my Celestron 60x15 bins. They do ideally need to be mounted of course!
Yeah, they do - although they're not technically mine. Just nobody else uses them. Opticron 8x40s. I might get an adapter but i don't want to spend too much money on it... especially since it's a rubbish tripod anyway
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The ones I got looked like that:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Binocular...phy_Binocular_Accessories&hash=item53e78c4e57
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Binocular...phy_Binocular_Accessories&hash=item53e78c4e57
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I wouldn't worry about light pollution for imaging too much to be honest. Just get an Astronmik CLS clip filter for your camera and you'll be well on your way. All of my photos were taken from my roof in central London, it's literally in the thick of it for light pollution and I can't complain.