Ruiz is fit. It’s exhausting getting beat up for 12 rounds.
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Ruiz is fit. It’s exhausting getting beat up for 12 rounds.
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Looks like I quoted the wrong chap, I think Wesley will be sitting chuckling to himself.
I do however disagree with your assessment. Joshua stuck to his gameplan and didn't need to go for the knockout. Ruiz never stood a chance of catching Joshua last night however if he got drawn into a brawl again anything could have happened. Ruiz still had quick hands, it was his footwork that let him down.
I understand the gameplan was to get through this fight, so he can fight more useless boxers and make lots of money. I just don't think it was particularly impressive. But then the Heavyweight division is mostly garbage nowadays.
He wasn't beaten up, he was jabbed mostly. Around 10 punches a round landed.
Caporegime
Yeah, so just goes to show you how good Joshua is, getting taken all the way, and having to get the win via a points decision
Horses for courses, I thought he did a very good job last night.
Usyk has been made his mandatory by the wbo, if he comes through that hopefully we will see him face fury, wilder our maybe both.
So Ruiz is fit, you just don’t like boxing as a sport. That’s all you have to say really.
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Soldato
Usyk is whole other problem. He is an incredible talent with huge amount of experience.
You said Ruiz was unfit, he’s not as he shown last night by taking a beating for 12 rounds. In the last 30 seconds of the fight he wanted a slug feast.
Soldato
Usyk looks a little slower as a heavyweight
Soldato
As I've said before you don't need to be fit to endure 10 jabs a round for 12 rounds.
He was clearly unfit, he weighed 20 stone and you could see the flab wobble when he walked.
I like boxing, I don't like borefests.
Ah so you think only scoring shots count and the actual act of boxing is exertion free. Sorry but you are talking cobblers. As I’ve said before you don’t need to look like Adonis to be fit.
Soldato
You like boxing but you are showing an amazing lack of knowledge about the sport. Try going to the gym and hitting a punch bag for 12 rounds. Even without a HW throwing punches at you it’s exhausting.
Soldato
Even Ali used to move and jab as did Larry Holmes because it works
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AJ deserves huge credit for mentally winning this fight after that massive loss he took and going away and working on what he needed to do.
however Ruiz what a joke, he basically chinned off any sort of prep and just got fatter. Total disrespect for the position he had. Fair play he got his dream last time and got paid but to turn into a fat mess basically, not good at all.
As much as AJ won it through working hard since the defeat, Ruiz basically lost it for just accepting he found a way of winning and not being prepared to put the hard work in again.
however Ruiz what a joke, he basically chinned off any sort of prep and just got fatter. Total disrespect for the position he had. Fair play he got his dream last time and got paid but to turn into a fat mess basically, not good at all.
As much as AJ won it through working hard since the defeat, Ruiz basically lost it for just accepting he found a way of winning and not being prepared to put the hard work in again.
Soldato
Yes
and with less than 25 pro fights AJ is a 2 time champion He looked aweful last night , slow way too fat and didnt seem to know what to do either , too much pizza and curry
Soldato
There are quotes out by Ruiz saying he didn't take the fight seriously and that partying for 3 months and eating too much kinda affected him. And quotes by Wilder saying the same.
But ok, yeah according to you Ruiz was in tip top shape. And Joshua beat a man in prime condition.
Any pro boxer will be conditioned to do over 12 rounds of hitting a punch bag every day in training. To say just throwing 22 punches a round (5 connecting) in anyway suggests an up to speed fighter is ridiculous, and I put it to you that it is you showing the amazing lack of knowledge.
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Yep, just look at Lewis when he was undisputed. The jab is an awesome type of punch to have in your locker, especially if you have the reach to use it right.
Ruiz said a lot of things, however he was fighting fit. I disagreed with your view of Ruiz's fitness because it's false
Nope, you start with 4 round fights and work up to 12 slowly. Usually 2 rounds at a time. Fighting for 12 rounds is hard work. most people will never reach that level of fitness. Ruiz landed nothing because of Joshua, not because he couldn't.
Ruiz, throughout his career, has never been "fit", as he has never had to be and he has never wanted to be either - his lifestyle is typical of the man he wants to be. His style doesn't lean himself to be that well-conditioned either. Ruiz doesn't and has never from the fights I have seen work every round of any given fight, he fights in bursts when he can get in range. Ruiz's problem for his style hasn't been about fitness, it's been about his footspeed, hence why he struggled so much more to get in close quarters with Joshua. AJ's problem last time out was that he stayed in range far too often and got tagged too much - Ruiz didn't need footspeed then, last night he did.
This is the fight AJ should have played last time in June, but according to Hearn, he wasn't in the right headspace - AJ was unprofessional then, taking Ruiz far too lightly - last night he righted those wrongs and fought the "right" fight. Was he fearing Ruiz? Yeah, sure he was - he had his whole destiny at stake.
Was Ruiz overweight last night - yep he was, however, Ruiz has been this heavy before in his second fight - I also remember Freddie Roach saying that Ruiz fights better with fat, though I doubt he would have liked seeing any of his fighters in such poor conditioning, but as I have already alluded to, Ruiz isn't like every other HW
where conditioning is concerned.
I bet with anyone that neither Wilder or Fury trade with Ruiz on the inside. He is dangerous regardless of the weight he carries - Speed carries power and if he can get some form of positive attitude and stay at a reasonable weight for his style, then he will be a danger in this division - last night showed he was ill-disciplined in his
approach to his training camp and paid the ultimate price.
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Ruiz's Father said that his son didnt train properly and too much partying and not listening to his camp and on fight day he was over 290 llbs