I don’t understand the narrative of Joshua’s career being on the line. He just been beaten by the p4p best fighter in the World, which is rare for a heavyweight to receive. It’s not remotely like the pasting Wilder got from Fury, he lost 2 decisions to the best fighter in the division. If he was to lose to Fury he would have lost to the 2 best fighters in the division. Boo hoo. He still has plenty of fights out there.
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Yup, that's what happens when you take the hardest fights. It depends if he wants a few gimmee fights. They may well be the sensible longer option but perhaps he just wants a shot at being at the top again.
There is no certainty that this fight will be available 2 or 3 years down the line. In an ideal world I'd say he should have another fight under Garcia whilst training out in America then look at having a fight at the top again but I am not a fighter and they're wired differently.
There is no certainty that this fight will be available 2 or 3 years down the line. In an ideal world I'd say he should have another fight under Garcia whilst training out in America then look at having a fight at the top again but I am not a fighter and they're wired differently.
Up until the 2nd loss to Usyk he was in the mix at the top of the division, fighting for world titles in huge fights and getting paid crazy money. If and when he loses to Fury that's over. Yes, he'll still get offered good money to fight Wilder (a fight I don't think he'll take) and even Whyte but it will be at a completely different level to what he's used to. Does Joshua have the motivation to go through tough training camps to fight these guys knowing that he'll never get back to the top of the division, all while getting paid a fraction of what he's used to earning?
Joshua the good heavyweight that's been beaten 3 times on the bounce, has no titles and no prospect of fighting for any, doesn't have the same mass market appeal as Joshua the superstar that's only been beaten once, avenged that defeat and is now on the hunt to become undisputed.
I've no doubt that Hearn will want to milk every penny out of him, creating narratives and hyping **** fights but will Joshua really want to do that? I have my doubts.
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Yes i can see your point but on another hand AJ got title shot thanks to Fury (if Fury keeps his promise) after loosing to Usyk and we would like to see this fight soon not 3 years down the line.
People are getting hung up on titles. Fury has one (WBC) and Usyk has the rest. The belts will be tied up for a long time and AJ can’t do a thing about it anymore than any other fighter can. Usyk will be tied up with mandatories at some point, that’s if he doesn’t end up retiring after the Fury fight.
Money makes boxing go around and AJ generates it. Belts are secondary.
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I cant see AJ is in position to play big role now,he had it all and lost it all 2 times in the row. Big money are generating by champions with belts (best when they never lost).
Yes correct he shoud go for it
Wilder never generated big money, Usyk won’t generate big money as the top fighter in the division. Brands generate money and AJ is a brand.
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At this moment in time is loosing brand.
Fury on talksport now
Hes booked old trafford beginning of nov 12th wembley booked for 26th nov and cardiff booked for 3rd dec
IF this fight dont go ahead i dont care what people say about fury its because aj dont want the smoke
If it was aj with belts and fury without no way would ajs camp offer fury 40% of the purse
Hes booked old trafford beginning of nov 12th wembley booked for 26th nov and cardiff booked for 3rd dec
IF this fight dont go ahead i dont care what people say about fury its because aj dont want the smoke
If it was aj with belts and fury without no way would ajs camp offer fury 40% of the purse
Your like a revolving door. How many times did pacquio lose?
But he had a contact agreed last year didn’t he? Did AJ duck fury or was it the other way around.
I couldnt care two hoots
Aj should be jumping at this chance hes lost two on the bounce and been offered a 3rd chance at some belts
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What is with you Pacman now AJ i like watching boxing and i know money talks but at this moment AJ loosing he has good chance to prove it other wise (what for for money not for a belt ?) or for boxing world what he is made off.
You only want to see one side of this particular argument. The reality is Aj was set to fight him so it’s impossible that he scared to fight him.
How many times did he lose before he thought Mayweather and did it affect his brand and ability to earn money?
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Pacman lost 8 times in total (but he was fighting in 8 divisions and taking a risk ) and this fight been taking lo long to deliver and was crap. They sould not have this kind of money for this fight and bouth of them brads was to old. At this moment Fury/AJ is best fight on the time lime would you like to see this in 2024 and pay for it ?
Right so by your omission having a loss or 3 or even 8 by your favourite boxer, is not the be all and end all. How about some of you take your Tyson Fury coated blinkers off and give AJ a bit of credit. If he takes the fight he shows a big old pair of balls, if he loses which he’s expected too, it doesn’t mean he’s washed up, it means he dared to be great, just like Pac-Man. He fought the 2 best guys back to back to back. Who does that? It certainly isn’t Wilder he’s fighting Helanius, but no one is calling him this or that. He’s great because to say otherwise is to diminish Fury’s wins over him.
If the fight doesn’t happen it doesn’t mean he’s scared, it can’t be any different than Fury pulling out the first time they were set to fight. Was Fury scared to rematch Klitschko? Ustinov? Chisora? C’mon come back to reality.
I'm not saying aj is ducking the fight, I'm saying hearn will duck the fight. Ajs ego will want the fight.
I think baz hit the nail on the head. It's the wrong time for aj after coming off 2 defeats and hearn will want him to fight some bums with still good pay days before looking to fight fury in 2 years time.
Personally i think it should be made, a last roll of the dice for aj and if he loses can ride into the sunset with a big wad of cash.