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Chisora was a bit lucky to get that nod over Pulev. I'm glad he did but if he lost that he would've had 14 losses on his record. I don't think Ortiz losing to Ruiz Jr is any worse.

Are we really going to use a profile argument to defend Fury? What profile did Schwartz, Pienetta or Wallin have before Fury picked them from obscurity?

Chiarosa doesn't pose as much of a threat as Sanchez or Hunter do and if you genuinely believe that he does then I'd love to have some of the stuff you're smoking. Don't get me wrong. I love Chisora and I'm glad he is getting a payday but there is no way to defend this match other than a mate giving his mate a payday.

I don't think it's entitled to expect a fighter who claims 'there's not a man born from his mother' that can beat him. If you want to have that energy then you need to back it up with credible opposition. He's a champion, he should be fighting live opposition. It's a shame Joyce isn't in the WBC rankings but there are some still credible opponents he could've took.
But Ortiz has been beaten by both Wilder and Ruiz Jr so poses no real threat to Fury. He’s old and it’s time to move on.

Profile is a factor. Risk vs reward is a thing. If the next fight wasn’t going to be Usyk then I’d understand but ultimately Fury’s going to take a fight that has as much credibility but poses the least amount of risk that he can. Neither Sanchez or Hunter is going to beat Fury. Sanchez maybe something at some point but Hunter had a chance to roll the dice with Hrgovic, he backed out.

Look you’ve got to be realistic. His only goal should be focusing on Usyk because that’s a proper fight. This is a tick over fight and Chisora is guaranteed to bring it for the fans and Fury is guaranteed to win it for the undisputed fight to still take place.
Fury’s looking to cash out now. It’ll be Usyk and if he wins Aj and then that’s it would my prediction.
 
But Ortiz has been beaten by both Wilder and Ruiz Jr so poses no real threat to Fury. He’s old and it’s time to move on.

Profile is a factor. Risk vs reward is a thing. If the next fight wasn’t going to be Usyk then I’d understand but ultimately Fury’s going to take a fight that has as much credibility but poses the least amount of risk that he can. Neither Sanchez or Hunter is going to beat Fury. Sanchez maybe something at some point but Hunter had a chance to roll the dice with Hrgovic, he backed out.

Look you’ve got to be realistic. His only goal should be focusing on Usyk because that’s a proper fight. This is a tick over fight and Chisora is guaranteed to bring it for the fans and Fury is guaranteed to win it for the undisputed fight to still take place.
Fury’s looking to cash out now. It’ll be Usyk and if he wins Aj and then that’s it would my prediction.

But it's good that there are other heavyweights available other than Ortiz and Chisora. Look, I like to make jokes with everyone else about Ortiz being old enough to have had an undefeated record in the colosseum as much as the next fan does but I'd rather see Fury fight Ortiz, in a style he hasn't yet faced, than fight Chisora who he dealt with relatively easy years ago.

Yes I know profile and risk vs reward are factors but I don't see how that justifies picking an older Chisora just to blow him out of there in 4 rounds and then shout how you're #1. It's ********. This is what I hate about boxing fans "Oh Sanchez or Hunter wont beat Fury". Let him get in the ring and prove it. Then again I'm sure people said "Buster Douglas isn't going to beat Tyson".... "Holyfield? That blown up cruiserweight? He's not going to beat Tyson are you mad?" Styles make fights. Upsets do happen and they happen the most in the heavyweight division. Fury has track record of finding smaller heavyweights tricky to deal with - Hunter falls into that group. Sanchez, to my eye, is a highly skilled heavyweight as a fan his profile shouldn't matter to you - he is up there in the rankings so if Fury wants to keep claiming he is the best of the best, fight all comers. Up and comers, prospects, veterans, the full shebang. Not people you made retire on their stool and comprehensively beat already.

Hunter did back out of the fight with Hrgovic but then Hughie Fury backed out the fight with Hunter 2 or 3 times now. Maybe the other Fury can have the bottle to fight him. Hunter is adamant he beat Fury in the amateurs, let them try it in the pro-ranks.

He can do that but then his record in the history books will be awful. Perhaps he doesn't care about that and just wants the big bag of cash - that's fine. But as a boxing fan his career is a disappointment. Then again, a few years ago he did say he'd fight Wilder, Whyte, AJ and then Chisora. He is just sticking to his plan, for the most part.
 
Holding this fight at Spurs, in December seems optimistic from Fury/Warren both in terms of capacity and weather. They'd be better off making the press-conferences PPV than the fight.
 
There will always be a point to make Fury/AJ. Same as I'll always want to see AJ/Wilder. Styles make fights and all these guys need to fight one another.

We have the same issue with the 130-140 divisions. Haney, Garcia, Davis, Lopez and Lomachenko should've all been fighting one another but Haney looks like he is going to be moving up. Then you have Stevenson going from 130 up to 135. I really, really want to see Haney vs Stevenson. I believe right now Haney is the best 135lber but had Stevenson been in the division I don't see anyone beating him. He's like a young Mayweather
I would see this fights but Fury wants to retired that what he saying so fighting Usyk and done with boxing make sense or money talking and keeps fighting.
 
But it's good that there are other heavyweights available other than Ortiz and Chisora. Look, I like to make jokes with everyone else about Ortiz being old enough to have had an undefeated record in the colosseum as much as the next fan does but I'd rather see Fury fight Ortiz, in a style he hasn't yet faced, than fight Chisora who he dealt with relatively easy years ago.

Yes I know profile and risk vs reward are factors but I don't see how that justifies picking an older Chisora just to blow him out of there in 4 rounds and then shout how you're #1. It's ********. This is what I hate about boxing fans "Oh Sanchez or Hunter wont beat Fury". Let him get in the ring and prove it. Then again I'm sure people said "Buster Douglas isn't going to beat Tyson".... "Holyfield? That blown up cruiserweight? He's not going to beat Tyson are you mad?" Styles make fights. Upsets do happen and they happen the most in the heavyweight division. Fury has track record of finding smaller heavyweights tricky to deal with - Hunter falls into that group. Sanchez, to my eye, is a highly skilled heavyweight as a fan his profile shouldn't matter to you - he is up there in the rankings so if Fury wants to keep claiming he is the best of the best, fight all comers. Up and comers, prospects, veterans, the full shebang. Not people you made retire on their stool and comprehensively beat already.

Hunter did back out of the fight with Hrgovic but then Hughie Fury backed out the fight with Hunter 2 or 3 times now. Maybe the other Fury can have the bottle to fight him. Hunter is adamant he beat Fury in the amateurs, let them try it in the pro-ranks.

He can do that but then his record in the history books will be awful. Perhaps he doesn't care about that and just wants the big bag of cash - that's fine. But as a boxing fan his career is a disappointment. Then again, a few years ago he did say he'd fight Wilder, Whyte, AJ and then Chisora. He is just sticking to his plan, for the most part.
I guess we’re all optimistic but ultimately reality sets in.

I personally have no problem with this fight. Charr would have been a different matter but Chisora is a credible opponent and an easy fight to make before undisputed next year. If you don’t like it then don’t pay for it, I won’t be. But I will watch it either live or highlights.

Let the other guys start fighting each other Sanchez can fight Hunter, Bakolie or Hrgovic ect. Let them earn the right the hard way just like Joyce has.
 
I guess we’re all optimistic but ultimately reality sets in.

I personally have no problem with this fight. Charr would have been a different matter but Chisora is a credible opponent and an easy fight to make before undisputed next year. If you don’t like it then don’t pay for it, I won’t be. But I will watch it either live or highlights.

Let the other guys start fighting each other Sanchez can fight Hunter, Bakolie or Hrgovic ect. Let them earn the right the hard way just like Joyce has.

Again. I love Chisora. Especially since his 'rebrand' of War Chisora I think he is fantastic for British boxing and I love that he is getting his flowers from fans. He used to be a huge heel but I'm liking the change he has made and I'm glad he was back with Don Charles for his last fight after all they've been through. I just wanted to say that so it's obvious that I like Del Boy (even if my favourite highlight of him is getting sparked out by one of the best left hooks I've ever seen by Haye)

Chisora is absolutely not a credible opponent for Fury. He's lost 4 of his last 10 fights and he's lucky he got the nod against Pulev last time out. How on earth you can argue that he is more deserving of a voluntary shot over someone with a winning record is absurd to me. He is a gate-keeper at this point someone that prospects should be targeting (which is why I wanted him to retire after Pulev) to increase their rankings. He is most certainly not a fighter that someone who is the WBC champion, Lineal champion (for whatever that is worth) and more or less the consensus #1 of the division should be fighting.

Utterly bonkers anyone can think Chisora actually deserves a shot at a belt. He has done nothing to earn this shot other than being Fury's friend. I don't blame Chisora for taking the fight. He is a warrior through and through and loves a pound note so get it whilst he can. But to a punter like myself who just wants to see good credible fights, this is pathetic. This isn't an exhibition.. This is an actual world title fight... for someone who has done bugger all to earn it
 
Things like these are why I sometimes wish boxing was run a bit more like UFC. Too many organisations and too much politics are ruining the sport.
 
Yeah I have so many fights in my head that I want to happen but unlikely ever will

Domestically, we have a brilliant light heavyweight scene and I want all of them to mix it up, I want to see all the guys around 135/140 mix it up, I want to see Crawford vs Spence, Fury vs AJ, AJ vs Wilder, Fury/Wilder/Joyce vs Usyk and the list goes on.

It really doesn't help fighters seem be only getting out for a fight or 2 a year. Canelo was an exception to that. It feels like he is active every 4 months.
 
The press conference was dreadful. Still using AJ’s name to promote Fury’s fights nothing different there.
 
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Hatman saying everything I tried to say in this thread but more eloquently than me. (Just for my own sake this video was uploaded less than an hour ago so my posts earlier were my own thoughts)
 
So he doesn’t have an issue with Fury fighting Chisora as a stay busy fight but he does because it’ll be a voluntary defense of his WBC belt. Ok lol.
 
Watched Lewis Tyson earlier. I appreciate Tyson was past his best but damn, he took a bearing. Lewis' jab was insane, as were the uppercuts.
 
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Watched Lewis Tyson earlier. I appreciate Tyson was past his best but damn, he took a bearing. Lewis' jab was insane, as were the uppercuts.
That was best times in boxing in my opinion but now we have crap fights with PPV with no intrest at all what a **** hole.
 
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Watched Lewis Tyson earlier. I appreciate Tyson was past his best but damn, he took a bearing. Lewis' jab was insane, as were the uppercuts.
I’m sorry but Mike Tyson in his prime is still the most impressive thing I have ever seen to do with boxing.


 
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