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omnomnom said:
Sorry just to confirm. I took an issue with someone saying Fury only takes ultra safe fights of which you considered Wilder to be "ultra safe" but Joyce isnt?

Come on now...Wilder isnt a "Ultra safe" fight for anyone in boxing.
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I don’t agree with the notion that he takes ultra safe fights. His resume is poor for someone of his stature, basically Klitschko and Wilder are the 2 stand out names after that it’s Whyte and Chisora.

My argument is that Wilder doesn’t pose much of a threat to Fury. Other than the first fight Fury just bullied him, knock him down multiple times and out twice. He completely abandoned the style he was synonymous with and beat Klitsckho with, because he knew Wilder couldn’t knock him out and couldn’t fight.

You see Wilder is/was like Tyson in the way he projected fear onto his opponents and beat them before he landed a glove. That didn’t happen with Fury and it won’t happen with Joyce which is where the Joyce comment was aimed. I’m not even sure Wilder beats Ruiz jr but we’ll have to wait and see on that one.
 
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Gregvivi0401 said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Fury vs Usyk given green light by WBC... with Wilder in line to face winner

TYSON FURY’S undisputed super-fight against Oleksandr Usyk has been given the green light by the WBC. The pair of unbeaten heavyweight champions are already being lined up for the division…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
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Wilder won’t be facing the winner anytime soon I’ve already told you this. Fury just defended his mandatory against Whyte. Next will be the IBF, then it’ll be either the WBA/WBO which ever way round they do it. Fury and Usyk will fighting to unify and then they will have a rematch clause so the belts at that point should be unified, the only thing in doubt is wether Usyk is forced to drop the IBF. Joshua will likey fight for a belt before Wilder. Heck how long did Whyte have to wait for his shot? Years wasn’t it.
 
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Doobedoo said:
Wilder won’t be facing the winner anytime soon I’ve already told you this. Fury just defended his mandatory against Whyte. Next will be the IBF, then it’ll be either the WBA/WBO which ever way round they do it. Fury and Usyk will fighting to unify and then they will have a rematch clause so the belts at that point should be unified, the only thing in doubt is wether Usyk is forced to drop the IBF. Joshua will likey fight for a belt before Wilder. Heck how long did Whyte have to wait for his shot? Years wasn’t it.
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I told you this I am not interested in Wilder 4th fight only Usyk first.
 
Gregvivi0401 said:
(Oleksandr Usyk undisputed fight given green light by WBC) this is more important for me.
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Why? The fights happening regardless the WBC have no say in the matter. The IBF are the issue, ironically Usyk may have to do what Joshua should have done to secure a fight with Fury. Drop a belt.
 
Doobedoo said:
Why? The fights happening regardless the WBC have no say in the matter. The IBF are the issue, ironically Usyk may have to do what Joshua should have done to secure a fight with Fury. Drop a belt.
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I hope you right and this fight will go ahead but in this business boxing world any excuses are possible.
 
Gregvivi0401 said:
I hope you right and this fight will go ahead but in this business boxing world any excuses are possible.
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The WBC are desperate for Wilder to fight for the title again but he won’t be able to for a while that’s just how it works, they are at the back of the line due to there mandatory being fought for most recently.

The only thing stopping Fury fighting Usyk is if Fury loses, (that’s why they have played it safe with Chisora) or if Usky is forced to fight Hrgovic and does a Joshua and loses. No guarantees in this World but Fury should beat Chisora and Usyk may well drop the IBF.
 
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