*** The Official Football Manager 2009 Thread ***

Teams are working out my formation now it seems, but results are random. Lost 3-2 away at Liverpool in cup, then next game, won 4-1 away at Liverpool in league, with same tactics/team. Away form is crap, but 100% record at home. As usual, the game goes WAY over the top with the importance of Home/Away. I beat Liverpool 4-0 at home, but can lose to Sunderland if i'm away.

It's doing the last minute goals crap now, so i'm losing interest, tactics don't matter, just does it because SI think we'd be like "Omg, what a climax, i'm on the edge of my seat, who'd have thought they'd score a winner in the 89th minute, what a game!"

I think i'm bored of the prem too, i got some wicked players but when your tactics get found out and really crap players are suddenly good for the computer. some players only score vs. me. Torres weren't having a good season, but in the cup, scored a hat-trick, every goal from 30+ yards out...OFF THE POST. Time for new league :O
 
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I love how I can spend ages getting a good team, who score loads of goals and are playing really well with good individual players and then play a lower league team and their goalkeeper suddenly turn into the greatest goal keeper off all time ever in the history of the world :)
 
I've downloaded various extra graphics but I'm unsure where to put the files, and there are no readme files to explain. I found out from here that they go in the Sports Interactive/Football Manager 2009/graphics folder, but do they then need to be in separate folders?? I have graphics/images for Premiership badges, competition badges, advertising boards, weather icons and a few others.
 
I'm not sure if they need to be in separate folders, but they do work in separate folders so I find it easiest to do that. I use graphics > pictures > competitions/flags/logos/players etc folders.
 
well i had a bit of a clearout at the end of the last season, won everything again though :p

players out

Norvedlt £10 million
Evra £12million
Paloschi £7.75million
hargreaves £17,25million
carrick £10 million
Rafael £5million
Ronaldinho £1.9million
Joaquin £3.2mill


total of £67million outwards most of which either because they were gettting the wrong side of 30 or in paloschi case because hes carp :p

incoming

Zak Banks £4mill from newcastle DC
Camacho £22.5million From Atletico
Luca Anania £7.5million from Inter AML
Adrian Diaz £10million from Barcelona AMR

so my squad has been sunstantially trimmed and the overall age of my squad is now down to 22 would be lower but i still have oshea and brown for the sole reason that they are homegrown for the CL however both of these will be going at the end of this season.

so

GK1: Sergio Asenjo
GK2: ben Foster
RB1: Daniel Opare
RB2: Davide Santon
CB1: Mamadou Sakho
CB1: Nemaja Vidic
CB2: Wes Brown
CB2: Zak Banks
RM1: Christiano Ronaldo
RM2: Adrian Diaz
DM1: Ignacio Camacho
DM2: Eduardo
CM1: Anderson
CM2: David
CM3: Alex Witsel
FC1: Wayne Rooney
FC1: Gonzalo Higuain
FC2: Klaus Van Huntelaar
FC2: Guiseppe Rossi

so all in all not a bad squad but heavy in youngsters and regens. David for example is awesome stat wise and in game at the tender age of 19




my other regens are the likes of Diaz who although i paid £10 m for is again very good at the tender age of 20 and improving all the time




so doing ok at the moment although my tactic was letting in a few goals this season more than normal as the AI seem to have worked it out, therefore i changed to a different tactic for a couple of games and then back again and seems like normal service has been resumed :p
 
i have three of my scouts assigned so scouring the world / central europe etc and they keep coming back with reccomended 15-18 year olds, so i check them out and if i like i buy :p
 
Send scouts to leagues you have running, i.e. i have Italy and England.

If you think those regens are insane, my ones are younger and VASTLY more insane :). Hmm, i may have to change my tactic then, have got knocked out of all the cups and i am losing prem games now.

Hmm, ain't got a DMC really now except a youthie, so a bit stumped, could do a 4-1-3-2 i suppose, straight 4 at back, 1 MC, 1 AMC/AMR/AML, 2 strikers. Though the wingers would have to do a lot of cover work.
 
enyeama is a good cheap keeper victor i think his first name is


striker wise its pot luck due to the fact the games bugged to death when it comes to strikers actually scoring :p
 
Ronaldo, Edgar Davids, Appiah, Kallon, Gerard are all free's. As Hull, you should be able to get most of those and they all still rock.
 
Will someone be kind enough to update this thread if/when the patch is released and the changelist?

I'm at work and can't access the SI website but can access this one strangely.
 
It is. :D Either run Steam to get the patch now or wait until 4.30 for torrent links, 5pm for Rapidshare links and 5.30pm for other download mirrors. :)

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=82282

Changelist:
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Football Manager 2009 v9.2.0 
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Crash Fixes
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- Fixed Italian C Cup crash when C2 league not selected.
- Fixed Crash when continuing game - TRANSFER_MANAGER::create_promotion_cash_info.
- Fixed Crash TRANSFER_MANAGER::transfer_player.
- Fixed Crash fixture_rules->does_player_need_registered - NULL squad_selection_rules passed in.
- Fixed startup crash on Mac in some cases if a custom database folder does not exist.

General
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- Phil Jagielka is no longer described as a GK on the player profile screen (when player pictures are disabled).
- Goalkeepers no longer included when working out the worst passing statistics for the team information screen.
- More variation in number of games played by players playing for clubs in inactive nations.
- Adjusted Scottish cup attendances.
- Fixed "Mistakes led to 1 goals" feedback string in motivation information.
- User can no longer reject a transfer offer via the Transfer Centre if his club is bankrupt.
- News about reserve team bans being extended now sent to first team manager.
- Assistant manager match analysis now shows if a user takes control of a team who didn't have an Asst Man, and then employs one.
- Human managers with Belgian nationality now have both Dutch and French as their languages.
- Fixed contract issues with newgens in certain nations like Scotland where they weren't given a proper contract.
- Prevented assistant manager from saying a player had played a poor game riddled with mistakes if he had a good rating still.
- Stopped non-managerial staff members being marked in landmarks as "Manager <x> leaves <team>" when they take on a manager role at another club.
- Fixed Osasuna newgen youth cities of birth to be in the right local region.
- Adjusted attendance for English Conference playoff final.
- Community Shield pitch no longer has terrible pitch condition in the first season.
- Spanish B team managers can now move players from C/U19 teams.
- Stopped the board rejecting request to relay the pitch when it is in very poor condition.
- Fixed bug where national team human manager is unable to filter/sort his player search after clicking on the Scout Recommendation column to sort the players.
- Fixed bug where squad numbers could not be changed for players on the main squad number selection date, in leagues which allow a max of 100 numbers.
- Players in the reserve team but marked as not available for the reserves now do not get picked for the reserves.
- Players now come back from holiday a bit earlier for pre-season.
- Players on loan at the start of the game have their days to gain nationality set for the season before.
- Newgens have the club join date set correctly.
- Players who used to play for Toronto FC (pre-game start) have days to gain nationality for Canada rather than USA.
- Fixed bug that would allow you to pick players for the Olympics that break the overage player rules causing  the squad to become invalid later and be force re-picked to meet the rules by the AI.
- Stopped Brazilian State leagues being counted in clubs highest and lowest league position records.
- Stopped players basic valuations from jumping significantly after matches.
- Ensured managers are appointed quicker towards the end of the season.
- Fixed some amatuer contract offers resulting in paying the player wages.
- More changes to increase the number of sacking/manager movement.
- Stopped human controlled teams coaching staff from having thier contracts automatically renewed.
- Fixed issue on Job Status screen which resulted in screen being very slow when loading up.
- Made changes to help prevent managers at very top clubs from taking up international manager jobs.
- Fixed issue which prevented 'B' clubs from appointing new managers.
- Made changes to help prevent players who have been declared to play for reserves from playing in GK positions.
- Adjusted attendance changes for promoted/relegated teams.

Interface
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- Fixed bug where players who moved on a free after a loan spell (pre-game histories) did not have the fee shown on the player career history screen.
- Fixed issue where club badges were sometimes not coming up on network clients.
- Re-enabled to "Overall" summary line in the Finances-Salary screen that was not being displayed.
- Live league table for Croation First Division now shows correct table when the league enters the 3rd round of matches.
- Fixed duplicate skin entries on the Preferences screen.
- Fixed Hall Of Fame record stats not appearing on manager's history panel.
- Made the sub-header graphics different to the header graphics.
- Fixed bug where person achievements would sometimes not appear when clicking on a club row.
- Fixed team/player profile box not appearing on administration news item.
- Manager Information screen now always shows correct league and cup wins for the current club.
- Match widgets are now slighty transparent.
- Match widgets can be minimised.
- Fixed classic View camera selection changing when browsing off screen and going back when viewing a saved match.
- Added ability to set view to TV or Classic in pre-match screens.
- Fixed "Play" text at half-time when a tactical chenge is made, then cancelled.
- Fixed incorrect string in error dialog when attempting to save a tactics file with a duplicate name.
- Yellow card match notifications should no longer get "stuck" on screen.
- Fixed tooltip for 'Tactics' when a match is running within TV View.
- Fixed some layout on the assistant manager feedback floating widget.
- Fixed tactics button not appearing sometimes in 'TV View' during a match.

Finances
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- Prevented unnecessary budget alteration news while takeover is in process.
- Adjusted contract type and wage given to Danish youth players.
- Adjusted part-time wages in Denmark.
- Adjusted Indian season ticket prices.
- Adjusted new stadium financing for MLS clubs.
- Adjusted youth wages for Northern Ireland and Wales.
- Adjusted Brazilian club finances.

Board Confidence
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- Fixed fans being "disappointed that a player has played so few games for the club" when they have been ineligible to play any matches.

International Management
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- Stopped user being able to take sole control of U23 team when adding new user.
- Fixed occasional international bio string mentioning a young player 'trying to make the step up' when he is yet to establish himself at youth level.
- Fixed headline "<player> Represents <nation>" on international roundup when player actually played for youth side.
- Fixed rare instance of international manager watching a match to look at a player for his next squad when the player is already an international for another country.
- Fixed bug where some overage players can be selected for U21 finals.

Media
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- Fixed incorrect number of apps in "...and has performed well in the <x> appearances he has made in an <team> shirt this season." string.
- Improved selection of media sources for lower league news stories (fixes worldsoccer.com reporting on teams outside their remit).
- Fixed chairman name not appearing in news string regarding aniversary of B team clubs.
- News of managerial appointments now sent to inbox when human is unemployed.
- Offering a player who is on the transfer list to clubs results in a news item suggesting you transfer list that player.
- Fixed League Round-Up wrongly stating that 4+ goals from a player in a big victory 'was not enough'.
- Praising a players recent form no longer generates contridictory player and manager interaction responses on a players profile.
- Fixed default action taken by club on player injury/illness while user is on holiday not being described in inbox message.
- Web addresses no long start with a capital W in www.
- Improved news item chain when releasing a player on a free while he is in contract negotiations with another club.

Press Conferences
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- Fixed player occasionally referring to male manager as "her" in player reaction.
- Fixed user being asked about defending their title crown when not the top division.
- Fixed press conference refering to a dismissal influencing 'a game you were leading but went on to lose' when team was drawing at the time.
- Fixed issue where media thought tie was two-legged if the match was moved and played at a later date than usual.
- Fixed question about players being at loggerheads still being asked over a year after original occurance.

Board Takeovers
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- Slightly decreased likelihood of getting a tycoon takeover.
- Ensure manager gets a clean slate for board requests when a new chairman takes over.

Transfers
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- Allowed players with a future transfer arranged to be given a squad number.
- Stopped you being allowed to transfer or loan list players who also have a non-playing job at your club.
- Helped increase number of south American transfers into Spain.
- Helped ensure clubs replace sold GK's in a quicker manner so they aren't short when transfer closes.
- Stopped bidding clubs repeatedly offering long term loan offer for same player.
- Ensured scouts at lower division clubs start looking at lower standard players quicker when assigned.
- Stopped humans being able to sell poor players for silly fees.
- Changed feedback for rejected loan items news item to not state silly loan fees and instead state player not available for loan.
- Stopped Ability to sign transfer listed (Not listed for loan) players on loan with no wage contribution.
- Allowed squad rotation squad status below the premiership.
- Another fix to help prevent inflated transfer fees for some players.
- Put some changes in to help increase the number of co-ownshership deals in italian football.
- Made changes to help increase number of recently released youth players find new clubs.
- Stopped some clubs rejecting loan offers and quoting lack of wage percentage as reason, when in fact they just don't want to loan the player to that club.

Network Game
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- Fixed bug in network games when user is always forced to new screen if he has been forced to continue.

Low Detail Match Engine
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- Fixed bug whch would sometimes cause a substitution to be made very early in the match for no reason.

Competitions
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Europe
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- European Cup group winners now always play 1st leg of next round away.
- Fixed some qualification problems where sometimes a team in 2nd place would qualify for the Champions League group stage directly instead of the team in 1st place.
- Moved Euro Cup squad selection date for group stage a week later (from the 2009/10 season).
- British referees will not referee games involcing british teams.

International
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- Added Club World Championship 5th/6th place playoff.

Australia
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- Correct australian teams in 2008 Asian Champions League.
- Asian Champions League now takes place every year (a fix made for another issue in 9.1.0 caused it to not take place sometimes).
- Wellington Phoenix are now eligble for the Asian Champions League.

Austria
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- Fixed bug were new signings in Austria were not being registered for matches properly.

Belgium
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- Fixed bug where Belgian First Division winner in first year doesn't get any news items about being champions.

Brazil
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- Youth contract players not allowed to play in competitive matches.
- Fixed bug in some state competitions where if a team wins both opening and closing stages, no landmark would be added.
- Updated Sao Paulo State Championship TV rights and prize money.
- Trial days are now held after the first season.

Bulgaria
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- Fixed reserve team fixture venue not being opposite of first team fixture venue.

Czech Republic
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- Fixed a problem with the Czech Cup cup draw around 12th July where the game would take a long time to make the draw.

Denmark
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- Improved transfer values in Denmark.
- Fixed FC Amager not participating in the Danish Cup.

England
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- 3 players aged 18 can now play in English U18 matches
- Improved end of season scheduling for English FA Cup and Premier Division for seasons after 2008-2009.
- Players on loan from clubs outside of england no longer count towards the maximum of 5 players in the matchday squad rule.
- FA cup draw fixed.
- Saturday evening English Premiership matches should kickoff at 17.30 instead of 17.15.
- Fixed Blue Sqaure Prem playoff number of Subs and Final at Wembley.
- Fixed league playoffs semi finals 2nd leg home advantage.
- Improved selection of English Premiership television matches.

Finland
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- Removed player registeration from Finnish League Cup.

Germany
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- Teams in UEFA Cup don't always have their league games moved to Sunday for TV if they are not playing on the Thursday before.
- Fixed not all First Division teams playing last round of league matches on last day of season due to a German team reaching Champions Cup final.

Greek
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- Fixed Greek European playoffs.

Holland
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- Fixed Dutch Eredivisie Schedule.

Israel
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- Fixed Israeli National League Toto Cup Semi-Finals venue.
- Updated Israeli State Cup schedule.

Malaysia
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- Fixed domestic suspensions not being enforced.

Nothern Ireland
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- Fixed Prem division league split bug.

Norway
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- Fixed Prem playoff draw.
- Updated First division prize money.
- Fixed age limit error for U19 matches.
- Made it a little be easier to sign Non-EU players for Norwegian clubs in Premier or First Division.

Poland
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- Fixed Polish FA Cup round 1 and 2 draw.
- Fixed correct team not being entered into the Champions League.

Portugal
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- Adjusted prize money for the Portugese Cup.
- Teams start the second stage of the Portugese Second Division on half the points they managed in the first stage.

Serbia
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- Added winter break for reserves competition.
- Fixed Serbian cup draws.

Spain
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- Fixed Spanish 2nd Division B kick off times.
- Stopped B Teams playing in Spanish cup.

Sweden
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- Fixed Playoff draw to First Division Elite.

Turkey
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- Fixed Turkish Cup away goals rule.
- U23 player match day requirement for Premier Division amended to U23 club home grown player match day requirement.

United States
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- Stopped American and Mexican teams playing each other in the NACL.
- MLS teams now dont qualify for Copa Sudamericana.
- Senior Development players at the start of the game now are paid the correct wage.
- Stopped players at human managed clubs been waivered without them asking them to be.
- Fixed not be able to give players squad numbers after using auto pick.
- Staff members no longer can be offered Developmental, Senior Developmental or Senior contracts.
- The second Designated Player only counts $365,000 towards the cap instead of $415,000.
- Removed the minimum release clauses for players playing in the USL 1 and USl 2.
- The Super, Supplemental and Waiver drafts are always held.
- Stopped user been able to offer non Designated player contract with Designated player wages, and offering a Designated player contract with non Designated player wages.
- Improved AI teams waivering players due to give Senior contracts to players on Generation Adidas, Senior Dev or Dev contracts forcing them over the squad limits.
- When running the USA league in view only mode the Designated and International players are not released and available on a free transfer e.g. David Beckham.
- Squad bonus news item now reports the teams correct finishing position.
- Fixed Players in the drafts can sometimes not be picked.
- Teams no longer passing in the first couple of rounds of the draft.
- Player Rights no longer are retained when a player is waived unless they were drafted in the current seasons draft.
- Player Rights no longer are retained when a player is sold to a non-MLS team for money.
- Top four teams in the overall standings qualify for the Superliga.
- Stopped players squad numbers been removed from teams after every MLS match.
 
Match engine changelist:

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Match v733
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- Fixed bug in man marking that allowed wingers to beat man easily
- Differentiated between set piece marking and open play marking so that players marking at set pieces follow their man through current phase of play
- Fixed making challenges not causing potential injuries, and rebalanced injuries across the board accordingly
- Toned down first touch a little for high velocity passes
- Made D-line push up a bit more, when playing high mentlity, when defending but ball in opp half
- Made teams defend a bit narrower even when defending but ball in opp half
- Made players a little more willing to shoot from edge of area when obvious opportunity arrives
- Made a few more placed rather than blasted finishes

Match v734
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- Increased number of blocked shots slightly
- Reduced effect of "hard tackling" setting slightly, rebalanced foul count
- Increased likelyhood of yellow cards for persistant fouling
- Reverted v733 change for set piece marking for set pieces in non dangerous areas
- Reworked effectiveness of first touch slightly
- Fixed bug causing long kicks upfield to yield too many one on ones
- Fixed bug where defenders would sometimes hang back way to far on fight balls at other end of pitch
- Made cultured players a little more adventurous when under pressure with ball
- Improved keeper saving range slightly
- Fixed a couple more bugs that cause player to stand around close to ball and not play it
- Encouraged shots from edge of area a little further
- Improved passer choice of pass a little
- Improved default player positions on field dependant on ball position slightly

Match v735
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- Fixed assertion created by ball being moved to set pieces decision when its already there
- Fixed instance of highlight cutting out when ball in area and not dead
- Fixed ball physics bug causing certain long high shots to be on target
- Tweaked AI manager use of mentality, width, and depth team sliders to account for opposition
- Slight widening of pace and acceleration range created from attributes
- Fixed unrealistic injuries from v733 caused by dribbling or turning on ball
- Fixed bug where defence might push up due to fight ball in own danger area, risking a clear goalscoring chance if their man loses out
- Fixed bug causing occasional clearance into touch from midfield position
- Reduced ability of keepers to save and hold close range shots
- Fixed bug where player may stray into opposition half and risk being offside when opposition defence have all joined attack
- Fixed bug where corner taker can step back through ad hoardings when preparing for kick
- Tweaked player choice of direction facing when picking up possession of ball, especially around opp area
- Fixed bug where keeper may not come to claim loose ball in own area
- Increased likelyhood of defence shifting over to cover players drawn into challenges
- Fixed instance of assertion where play pauses indefinitely due to issue with player not picking up loose ball
- Mistake now assigned to goalkeeper who handles outside area and loses ball due to being forced to drop it
- Increased number of low whipped crosses
- Improved default cross destination slightly
- Increased number of simple passes to feet
- Increased first time passes, shots when player ability and situation allows
- Tweaked likelyhood of long shots in various situations including free kicks in wide areas
- Improved finishing from fairly close range 
- Made players a little less eager to shoot early when clean through
- Fixed bug where throw ins can send ball straight out down line
- Fixed medics standing "inside" ad hoardings

Match v736
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- Fixed bug where keeper who drops ball after 6 seconds can leave it to an incoming striker if it takes a slight deflection off him as he drops it
- Slight optimisation on code that also creates more small lapses of concentration by players generally
- Reduced number of ariel challenges logged for players who arent close enough to the ball
- Slight improvement in facing when picking up possession of ball
- Fixed defenders dropping too deep when marking opponents around own area
- Fixed strikers trying to round keeper prematurely creating unneccesary tight angle for shot

Match v737
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- Fixed bug where post match injury would be more severe than the condition drop at the time would have indicated
- Toned down one touch football slightly for the less technical players
- Reworked identification of what is a "key pass"
- Fixed possible flaw in keeper choice of saving point
- Fixed keeper leaving goalbound ball when he expects attacker to get to it but its within saving range
- Fixed flaw in marking of ball player that sees defenders make uneven path towards their target point
- Tweaked off ball movement slightly
- Reduced passing ability of the very worst players
- Made players try to shoot slightly later when clean through if possible
- Players slightly more likely to place shots when clean through
- Fixed slightly obscure freeze in match that can take 30 seconds or more to resolve
- Fixed bug in hitting the post point that sees ball rebound from slightly wrong place

Match v738
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- Reduced instances of wild clearances from midfield areas
- Improved full back marking of winger running with ball near danger area
- Reduced amount of whipped low crosses

Match v739
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- Fixed 5 man wall for free kick near corner flag
- Fixed header off line not being included in highlights
- Made non defensive players close down play a little more effectively
- Low condition has more effect on concentration levels
- Obvious through balls less likely to be ignored
- Fixed bug where keeper can dribble ball out then ignore it if it stops dead and let in attacker
- Toned down instances of 3/4/5 players converging on ball player at once
- Slowed down backpasses, and very short passes a little
- Fixed bug in ball physics that could cause on target shots to hit crossbar instead

Match v740
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- Reduced deflections off players who are about to take control of ball
- Fixed injured player from human team remaining on pitch for duration of game
- Made keepers dive a bit further
- Fixed defenders assuming team mate that makes a tackle is going to take control of ball
- Further improved decision making of player through on goal
- Fixed keeper hesitating on picking up a loose ball near own goal
- Fixed player moving towards still ball too slowly allowing opponent to get in first and intercept
- Fixed bug that could stop players from kicking ball out for injury
- Toned down long shot accuracy a little
- Reduced number of risky passes across defence line

Match v741
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- Improved defence reactions to balls played over them or in behind them
- Reduced accuracy of keeper kicks
- Improved keeper dives a bit further
- Fixed bug where keeper may not come for static ball in own area and allow easy goal
- Increased safety first approach a little for lower standard players

Match v742 (9.2.0)
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- Fixed bug that caused keeper to potentially lose control of ball after he has held it for 6 seconds
 
8?! :eek: Poor sod. :(

I know SI normally say with a new patch to start a new game. :) I am. Enough bugs in even 9.1.0 to start a new game. :p

Btw how will you get the patch? Steam? Torrent? Or download? Just wondering what proportion of people here will use Steam to see if SI have found a blinding way to support FM in the future.
 
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