The Official WWDC 2008 Thread

Raymond Lin · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:06

Richdog said:
The difference being that other phone manufacturers do not ENFORCE you to sign in-store... they also sell them as individual handsets and don't care what you do with them after that... you can do as you please as is your right. Apple don't want you to do that!

*sniffle*

But they are bring out PAYG versions...which is essentially the same.

I do agree on the contract however, £30p/m one sucks giant balls.

Dangerous Dave · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:08

Richdog said:
The difference being that other phone manufacturers do not ENFORCE you to sign in-store... they also sell them as individual handsets and don't care what you do with them after that... you can do as you please as is your right. Apple don't want you to do that!

*sniffle*

I take it you have not seen that you can also buy the Iphone pay as you go with no contract from 02?

khimbar · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:10

fail at the internets said:
Dear god, well atleast i might be able to get one shipped from USA.

Thought you had to sign up for 24 months in store in the US? :confused:

iSam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:14

TheDean said:
I thought Apple had a world-wide warrenty policy as standard? Also - Could you buy an iPhone out of contract for cheap in the US?

Don't think so. They changed to put off the importers.

Depends on if a PAYG service is avaliable with AT&T. If it is contract only then no, you wouldn't be able to get one in the states.

Beepcake · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:23

I'd expect the PAYG price to be in the region of £400.

iMacMart · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:29

Beepcake said:
I'd expect the PAYG price to be in the region of £400.

Gulp...!

Stinky · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:30

Beepcake said:
I'd expect the PAYG price to be in the region of £400.

do we have to wait untill july to find this out

Azza · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:31

Im still trying to work out how they will make you choose which Tariff you want instore. I just dont see how they could implement it.

Stinky · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:32

Azza said:
Im still trying to work out how they will make you choose which Tariff you want instore. I just dont see how they could implement it.

the same as they do if you buy any other contract from from the store i would imagine??

Raymond Lin · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:32

Azza said:
Im still trying to work out how they will make you choose which Tariff you want instore. I just dont see how they could implement it.

Same way how they do it with every other phone on every other network for the past 10+ years ? :confused:

iSam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:32

Azza said:
Im still trying to work out how they will make you choose which Tariff you want instore. I just dont see how they could implement it.

Like any other contract phone. Go in, choose the Phone, they then sign you up to the contract take your bank details etc and you walk out of the shop signed up.

Stinky said:
do we have to wait untill july to find this out

Would expect details soon.

FreeStream · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:41

It won't be £400, as he said he wanted to make it more affordable and £400 is not more affordable. lol.

£300 tops.

If its over that then im going to buy a V1, simple as.

Adam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:42

Right, im sitting here in the departure lounge at Stansted airport heading to New York this afternoon for work.

When are these available in the US and is it worth me picking a one up and bringing back 1 for myself? I would prefer not to be tied into the O2 contract personally.

Wicksta · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:44

Adam said:
Right, im sitting here in the departure lounge at Stansted airport heading to New York this afternoon for work.

When are these available in the US and is it worth me picking a one up and bringing back 1 for myself? I would prefer not to be tied into the O2 contract personally.

So you'd prefer to be tied into an AT&T contract?

Adam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:45

So it is correct, as speculated, that you have to be tied into a contract regardless of where you buy the iphone? I.e. I can't just walk into the Apple store and walk out with an iphone without signing a contract?

iSam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:46

Adam said:
Right, im sitting here in the departure lounge at Stansted airport heading to New York this afternoon for work.

When are these available in the US and is it worth me picking a one up and bringing back 1 for myself? I would prefer not to be tied into the O2 contract personally.

Its released in 22 countries including the US on the 11th July.

I don't think you can bring one back unless AT&T offer a PAYG service.

Adam said:
So it is correct, as speculated, that you have to be tied into a contract regardless of where you buy the iphone? I.e. I can't just walk into the Apple store and walk out with an iphone without signing a contract?

With the contract, yes you will have to sign up in store. However, as there is a PAYG offer then you can walk in and take the phone without signing up. The problem is that we don't know the price of the PAYG handset - it could be quite expensive.

Adam · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:48

I return on Saturday so looks like I am out of luck anyway! Oh well, maybe an ipod instead. Thanks!

dobbsy · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:49

csmager said:
Which you can't buy anywhere and are going on ebay for stupid money?

As far as we can see, the contracts are pretty much the same as they used to be. You'll get it free on a £45/month contract with 1200mins and 500texts.

I'd pay the £200 odd on ebay over potentially £400 on pay as you go for the 3g any day of the week.

carlazai · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:53

tweakinfreak said:
Macworld said "We have heard that O2 may sell the iPhone in the UK on a pay-as-you-go basis, offering the device contract-free at the same price as the preceding model, £269. "

Here's hoping?

That is the right price point for a 8gb model. If its true then i will

But i'm not native enough to forget this is ripoff britain and we will get dicked over

Durzel · 10 Jun 2008 at 09:58

dobbsy said:
Activate in store = no iPhone for me.

Idiotic move IMO

Absolute garbage contracts as well.

Playing Devils Advocate for the moment, why have you got a problem with activating in store? Or are you one of the many (like myself actually) who have/had no intention of signing up with O2 and just jailbreaking/unlocking the phone as soon as you get it home?

You do realise I hope that Apple doesn't want you to do this, and that paying £100/£150 ($199/$299) respectively doesn't buy you the phone.

In this respect Apple are no different to the likes of Nokia, etc. When you pay a tiny amount of money upfront for a expensive (in hardware terms) mobile phone, do you actually think you legitimately own it at that point? The whole point of subsidising the handset is because most people can't afford the £500+ cost of a SIM free handset.

When it becomes available on PAYG you can expect it to be close to what you would normally expect a SIM-free Nokia N95 8GB or equivalent smartphone, etc to be.

People must surely have seen this coming when Apple announced the prices, and even the rumours that the phone would be heavily subsidised? Apple have just adopted the same practice that every other manufacturer/operator does, so why is this such a big issue?

Like most I was hoping to pick up an iPhone 3G for £100 or whatever with no intention of activating it online and then just unlock/jailbreak it instantly, but I'm also not an idiot and I suspect Apple aren't either (or at least they've learnt from the iPhone v1).

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