The plausability of MW2's terrorist attack...

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OK, spoilers ahoy for those who have not played the game yet...




The airport terrorist level. How plausable do you think somehting like that is in real life? I would imagine some airports in some countries would be more vunerable than others but still...

Would it be that difficult for a group of people to commit a massacre like that?

It seemed pretty scary in the game (props to IW for that) and would hate for it to happen in real life.

Also whilst on the subject of plausability,

Would Russia (if given the motive and ability to sneak up on US airspace) have the ability to carry out a full blown invasion? Wouldn't it just come down to nukes?
 
Whackeygrunt said:
OK, spoilers ahoy for those who have not played the game yet...




The airport terrorist level. How plausable do you think somehting like that is in real life? I would imagine some airports in some countries would be more vunerable than others but still...

Would it be that difficult for a group of people to commit a massacre like that?

It seemed pretty scary in the game (props to IW for that) and would hate for it to happen in real life.

Also whilst on the subject of plausability,

Would Russia (if given the motive and ability to sneak up on US airspace) have the ability to carry out a full blown invasion? Wouldn't it just come down to nukes?
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Surely if you had that sort of equitment and the people you could just walk in the front door of the airport, i think anyway

As for the nukes, wouldnt have made much of a game if they just nuked each other.... lol

Wouldn't they try to honour the agreement not to use them ? i'd imigine if one side was getting hammered they'd press the button pretty quick tho..
 
Ac1dh0u$3. said:
Surely if you had that sort of equitment and the people you could just walk in the front door of the airport, i think anyway

As for the nukes, wouldnt have made much of a game if they just nuked each other.... lol

Wouldn't they try to honour the agreement not to use them ? i'd imigine if one side was getting hammered they'd press the button pretty quick tho..
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this is another thing i dont understand, why doesnt or why didnt america do a simultaneous attack? as in you gather intel find out all the targets for your cruise missiles in afghanistan/iraq or whatever, then launch like 10,000 missiles. if you used this sort of tactic rather than doing it slowly over a period of 5 years i think it would have been much more effective in demoralising the morale of the enemy as well as making communication, etc very difficult. the enemy wouldnt know what hit them, the wouldnt be able to get supplies and would just give up.
 
Whackeygrunt said:
OK, spoilers ahoy for those who have not played the game yet...




The airport terrorist level. How plausable do you think somehting like that is in real life? I would imagine some airports in some countries would be more vunerable than others but still...

Would it be that difficult for a group of people to commit a massacre like that?

It seemed pretty scary in the game (props to IW for that) and would hate for it to happen in real life.

Also whilst on the subject of plausability,

Would Russia (if given the motive and ability to sneak up on US airspace) have the ability to carry out a full blown invasion? Wouldn't it just come down to nukes?
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Guys with armour and heavy weapons will overcome the ho hum police, you can see it now. Help all my colleges are dead what do I do, can you come help me, hold on we will be there in 30 mins.
 
do they even have many armed police in british airports ?

could easily do it if you could get hold of weapons ammo and enough nutters. those are the problems though...

similar attacks have happened before. like that school in russia/serbia or somewhere like that ? terrorist group went in. hostages and lots of deaths

but... its just a game

as for the nukes well thesedays no one wants to be the first country to use one. if russia/america fired one at each other then the chances are that not only would america/russia fire some back but anyone else joining in the war probably will too. guarenteed way to be wiped off the map
 
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Some interesting replies.

I have a feeling that there is no shortage of nutters out there that would be willing to carry something like this through.

I hope it never happens like but still..... How safe are out airports?
 
it does surprise me that something on that scale has not occurred in the west (well discounting 9/11 i suppose) every time i hear of a bomb going off in some street and killing 10 or 15 civvies and a few police im always like "why not the middle of a big shopping center during the christmas rush?" or "why not waterloo trainstation at commuter time?" i mean in either instance a small bomb would be devastating and hey it isnt like terrorists are exactly choosy with their targets.
 
There is quiet allot of visable security at heathrow. always cops with at least MP5s walking around, sometimes assault rifles.

I've even seen APCs sat outside a times of "elavated threat"

If thats whats visable, whats beheind the scenes?
 
I'd imagine that the reason why this is not such a common occurance is that obviously if you were wanting to carry out such an attack on an airport for example you'd have to plan how to carry out the attack as well as escape and going about who and the weapons.

You would need to make sure that it wasn't traceable back to you and id guess when you start trying to get weapons/armor of the calibre without anyone knowing the Govt. most likely gets a bit suspicious. The ammount of money it iwould take to do it would be quite large and if you can manage to make that kind of money illegally I would guess you are already being watched anyway. :)
 
Chaos said:
John Smeaton would sort them out no need for police :)
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You're not far wrong:

If this had happened in a US airport, compared to Glasgow

Eyewitness accounts.

America: "Oh my God! there was a man on fire, he was running about, I just ran for my life..I thought I was gonna die, he got so close to me"
Glasgow "**** wis running aboot oan fire,so a ran up n gave him a good boot in the sacks, then decked him"

America: "I just wanna get home, away from here..i just wanna get home, I thought i was gonna die"
Glasgow: "Here jimmy, am no leaving here tae am oan a ******* plane!"

America: "There was pandemonium, people were running in all directions, we didn't know what was hapening, I thought i was gonna die"
Glasgow:"**** this fur a kerry oan, moan we'll get a pint in"

America: "We thought he was gonna blow us all up, he had a gas canister, and was trying to get into his trunk, I thought we were gonna die, I just ran for my life"
Glasgow: "A swaggered by the motor that wis oan fire,and the dafty could nae even open his boot, he wiz oan fire annaw so a ran up n gave him a good boot to the baws"

America: There was this huge explosion,it sounded like war, I thought I was gonna die"
Glasgow:"There wis a bang, ye know like when ye throw BO basher intae a fire it wis like that"

America: "I'm too traumatised even to speak, I thought I was gonna die"
Glasgow "Here mate, gies 2 minutes tae a fone ma auld dear,if am gonna be oan the telly a want her tae tape it"

And finally a quote from eye witness Mr Smeaton live National ITV the interviewer asked:

"What message do you have for the bombers" - he replied "This is Glasgow, we'll just set aboot ye"

Mean while - back in reality, I'm sure the majority of us can tell the difference between a game and real life without allowing one to influence the other.
 
Whackeygrunt said:
OK, spoilers ahoy for those who have not played the game yet...




The airport terrorist level. How plausable do you think somehting like that is in real life? I would imagine some airports in some countries would be more vunerable than others but still...

Would it be that difficult for a group of people to commit a massacre like that?

It seemed pretty scary in the game (props to IW for that) and would hate for it to happen in real life.

Also whilst on the subject of plausability,

Would Russia (if given the motive and ability to sneak up on US airspace) have the ability to carry out a full blown invasion? Wouldn't it just come down to nukes?
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Depends what airport you attacked. If you attacked any of the london airports the Mets SO19 armed response team could be on the scene within minutes. The SAS probably within the hour.

In reality of course, if the building was surrounded by armed police and you were outnumbered 20-1, you wouldnt just run outside guns blazing. You'd be shot down in a blaze of bullets by police marksmen. In the game of course you overcome such odds and take all the police down but that would never happen.

So it would end up one of three ways

1) you run outside attempting to escape and all get shot by police marksmen

2) you stay inside and give up and get arrested

3) you stay inside and get stormed by the SAS and all die.

I suppose if they were suicide bombers options 1 and 3 wouldnt be that unappealing but none of the terrorists appear to be particularly good soldiers. They've all been kids or normal members of society who've used planes, or suicide bombs as their weapons. None of them are skilled with assault rifles. Thats probably why we'd never see an attack of this type.
 
Fair comments guys.

I suppose something like this would be hard to pull off. Even for "big" terrorist organisations like Al-Qaeda.

You have put my mind at rest and answered my query.

I still don't think Russia would engage the US in a big ground war when both sides have nukes.
 
When the level first started I didn't realise that we were going to annihilate civilians, so my jaw dropped when they opened fire. I was kinda sickened and didn't know what to think... then eventually I joined in with the shooting. And a sort of sickly smile started creeping on my face. That was the day when I realised what kind of man I am :eek:
 
i felt nothing while playing that level, modern warfare does not have the story nor engaging graphics to represent anything other than a massive script fest.

the scripted polygons running away are in no way people, therefore i felt nothing towards a non player character that has absolutely no AI what so ever.
 
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