The quality of Shuttle SFF Barebone systems is going downhill!

Tute said:
I see what you mean OP, but at the end of the day, isn't the proof "in the pudding" so to speak?

i.e Surely it's fairer to judge this system on how it actually performs, rather than rant about how it looks?
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Even,at stock speeds some of the recent Shuttle motherboards have had issues and IMHO this more down to cost cutting.

Parts of the VRM circuitry in many Shuttle PCs run very hot and this has lead to premature failure of VRM capacitors in 2 to 3 years. Even the northbridge does run very hot in many cases too.

However,not cooling the critical parts of the Shuttle motherboard is not a good idea as people tend to use normal desktop components in the motherboards. The SX58J3 has a socket 1366 motherboard for example which uses 125W~ 130W TDP Core i7 processors. Many of these systems are run overclocked too.

Using steel for an SFF PC which is made for portability is nothing but cost cutting especially when it costs the same as the system it replaced. If the launch prices with new chipsets were much lower then it would be understanadble(not EOL pricing though).

Even Shuttle has realised its mistake and is shifting back to aluminum for its cases it seems. It also appears that they have also enhanced the VRM and northbridge cooling for their new socket 1366 motherboards too.

At least with the soon to be released H67 Shuttle motherboards which do not support overclocking and have a 95W limit you can get away with less cooling.

The fact is that I am a Shuttle fan but TBH, I really think that they should switch to making cases and their associated PSUs and leave the motherboards to other companies. It would make the company more competitive as they take ages to launch new motherboards with new chipsets,are cutting costs and of course they have their buggy BIOS too.
 
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It looks like SH67H3 and SH67H7 will be around £270 to £300 at launch. They use an H67 motherboard with 4 RAM slots,have a PCI and PCI-E slot and a 300W 80+ certified PSU.

The SX58H7 Pro is around £450 at launch at a well known retailer and now that the SX58J3 is EOL it can be had for around £340 from the same place.
 
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Psypher5 said:
think i might go for a shuttle, simply 'cus its the smallest footprint for high end?
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Comparing the footprints of (say) the new Shuttle SH67H7 with the Silverstone Sugo SG04-F I mentioned earlier, the Silverstone case is actually narrower at 200mm as opposed to 208mm for the Shuttle, and only slightly deeper at 347mm versus 326mm.

This case, plus an Silverstone 500w modular PSU and an Asus motherboard would only cost about £240, which is quite a bit less than for a comparable Shuttle.

Still, as someone said earlier, a lot comes down to personal preferences with this type of system, but I am hoping that I will be pleased with my final choice! :)
 
ahhh really? I haven't looked properly at the size comparisons tbh.


I'm just looking into maybe a downsize from my lian li q08 to something smaller (so im looking at sg05/07/shuttle)
 
Psypher5 said:
ahhh really? I haven't looked properly at the size comparisons tbh.


I'm just looking into maybe a downsize from my lian li q08 to something smaller (so im looking at sg05/07/shuttle)
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The H7 is actually is quite a compact case but a Lian Li Q11 will have a smaller footprint but will be taller.
 
try and put a gfx card in a q11? :P I need a workhorse/high spec pc for uni/work, but would love a tiny silent out the way computer :(
 
i doubt the side panel will fit on with the front bowed out like that though, however its facking awesome. :D

how longs a 6970 and what else is comparable size/performance (nvid)
 
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