The real Hustle....WEP or WPA??

Phnom_Penh said:
WPA on it's own will do the job, and if they get past that (takes me 11 mins), there's no point in even bothering with the others :p WPA2/TKIP/AES is where it's at :).
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Are you saying that you can crack a full 64 character WPA key in 11 mins or I have misunderstood?
 
Bash said:
Are you saying that you can crack a full 64 character WPA key in 11 mins or I have misunderstood?
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That's what I thought he meant. But afaik the only way to crack WPA is using a dictionary attack, and of course no one on here would be stupid enough to use a dictionary word as their WPA password. To try and crack WPA using brute force would take many years...
 
I've got to be honest I don't bother with security..

I live in a remote part of the country (the sticks), my house is a mile from the nearest neighbour (excluding the family estate of houses) and the walls to my house are 1m thick (old barn conversion).

I do tell a lie though, I disable SSID but that's it.. My parents or the other houses can't pick up a signal with the SSID anyway, so I just never saw the need to run security.
 
The funny thing about that episode of the real hustle, was that he said make sure at least one pc is wired into your router for security.

In reality this dont make blind bit of difference because once someone is into your network via wireless, all they need to do is a simple arp cache poisoning mim attack and they can sniff the traffic from any host.
 
WotDa said:
I run no security, just because theres no need to when there closest house is 200m give or take away.
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Somebody with a 24dBi antenna would have no trouble communicating with your network at that range.
 
The way I see things is that WEP stops the casual viewer.
Sure it "can" be hacked quite easily, however to what end?
Now if somebody has got the time and patience to hack my wireless connection then what will they get?
They will be able to use my Internet connection.
If this was on a permanent basis then yes - I've got a problem with that and I'll sort it.
However if somebody is going to be sad enough to sit outside my house in their car with a laptop and use my connection for a while then good luck to them.

None of the machines on my internal network are at risk from these people.
I take my time to configure my Windows & Linux boxes, so they aren't getting any further than getting free web access for a little while.
The only wireless device I use where I'm not 100% of the secuirty is my Axim X50v running Windows Mobile 5 - so worst case, somebody could hack that.
 
BenST said:
Blah blah 'Fixed'. I ******* hate it when people do that.

There's no harm in adding the other options.
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Agreed, but it doesn't really do anything to the determined hacker. It'll put off the casual hacker though. Having said that, I expect that most people who try would just ignore any WPA networks if they see one.
 
Vai said:
That's what I thought he meant. But afaik the only way to crack WPA is using a dictionary attack, and of course no one on here would be stupid enough to use a dictionary word as their WPA password. To try and crack WPA using brute force would take many years...
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Thats what I thought?
 
use WEP when at Uni and at home I use WEP/Ethernet

Wireless is bad enough, so messing around with WPA IMO is just a waste of time
 
quackers said:
ok, if someone broke your wep/wpa security. What could they do when inside your network?
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Order a load of stuff off sites using hooky credit card details, therefore getting you into trouble? Use your connection for some random hacking? It's not so much what they could do to your network - it's more what they can do with your Internet connection that's an issue as you would be taking the crap for it.
 
Will_3rd said:
use WEP when at Uni and at home I use WEP/Ethernet

Wireless is bad enough, so messing around with WPA IMO is just a waste of time
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Lol nice statement, setting WPA takes same amount as setting WEP excecpt it's more secure....

But each to their own I suppose! :)
 
titaniumx3 said:
Is it just or does this thread make it seem like hackers have become some sort of infestation?
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Well obviously the chances of someone trying to hack your network are pretty small, but it's just the possibility that it can happen. Since everything out there should support WPA now (apart from the DS I suppose) and it's no more difficult to configure than WEP, there's absolutely no reason why people shouldn't want the best security for their network.
 
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