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The Review Is In: DirectX 12 is Way to Game, and GeForce Leads Pack

Competition is good, hopefully this will give AMD the kick up the behind it needs!! With the recent cutbacks and driver delays, I just get the impression that the driver 'team' consists of 3 blokes and a dog under a stair cupboard!!

The dog is for when they get bored and then they get the peanut butter out :D

So you'd say 3.5 guys?
 
This is all smoke and mirrors and tbh doesnt tell the full true story, as usual Nividia are glossing over the actual facts by crowing about their current top end card basically having the highest fps of the cards tested.

When in actual reality if you check the Percentage Increase that DX gave to the 290, you will see the actual increase was higher on the AMD card

Dont believe me? check Anandtechs review

www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/3

Check the figures, AMD cards all gain a higher Percentage increase in performance compared to the Nvidia cards, while Nvidia cards might currently hit higher fps marks, the actual performance increase is higher on AMD GPU's

Now if the new AMD gpus blow away the Nvidia stuff, and the percentage increases are consistant, well.........

All that shows is AMD slacked off their DX11 drivers for Mantle, while Nvidia took time and effort into optimising them. AMD (and Mantle) currently get crushed by NV's DX12 performance, which as far as API's go, is going to be far more important to gamers than Mantle.

To be fair, It's very likely that AMD have yet to put any real optimisation work into their DX12 drivers. I would expect things to be much closer on release.

So you'd say 3.5 guys?
Well, I lol'd :D
 
If I'm honest, I actually care less about Nvidia vs AMD on dx12 far less than how well that dx12 will widely and properly being used in games. Going by dx10/dx11, it was hardly impressive in terms of games that actually use them, nevermind using them well.

I know dx10/dx11 was more or less (or hugely) held back by the old gen consoles, but for PS4 and Xbone, have they been confirmed that they would use dx12 natively? I mean if they don't really use the extra features of the dx12, then game developers and publishers wouldn't really bother to do the extra work, when they do their lazy porting to PC platform they oh so love to do so much (it's no secret that always feed the consoles user-base first and then feed the PC gamers with left-over and as an afterthough. Just look at how Ubisoft trying to force PC gamers to game on 30fps and claim it is a "better gaming experience"...
 
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A puff piece from Nvidia.com no less...

and of course the usual begging off "oh, I just thought people would find it interesting" "oh, I just copy and pasted" "oh, I just happened to be reading it"
 
PR bah bah bah bah.. How anyone at this moment trust anything nvidia says is beyond me. 3.5 worth of bull..

Sure this blog isn't going to big up nvidia is it O Wait.
 
A puff piece from Nvidia.com no less...

and of course the usual begging off "oh, I just thought people would find it interesting" "oh, I just copy and pasted" "oh, I just happened to be reading it"

PR bah bah bah bah.. How anyone at this moment trust anything nvidia says is beyond me. 3.5 worth of bull..

Sure this blog isn't going to big up nvidia is it O Wait.

:D
 
Yep, I rather wait for proper dx12 graphic cards built from scratch.
That's why in a way I kinda feel sorry for those who already had 780/780ti/290/290x switching to the 970/980 because of the efficiency hype.

For people already have those cards, they smart money would be wait for those properly new gen high-end cards and upgrade to them from the 780/780ti/290/290x. Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank selling what in essence are new gen 60/60Ti for 70/80 money (and 50Ti for 60 money) :p
 
That's why in a way I kinda feel sorry for those who already had 780/780ti/290/290x switching to the 970/980 because of the efficiency hype.

For people already have those cards, they smart money would be wait for those properly new gen high-end cards and upgrade to them from the 780/780ti/290/290x. Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank selling what in essence are new gen 60/60Ti for 70/80 money (and 50Ti for 60 money) :p

Well, we can't say that they don't know how to play the game!!! They are Masters at it by now, and it shows for sure!! I have to admire their moxey though, they know the amount of ******** that they can get away with whilst maximising profits :cool:
 
If I'm honest, I actually care less about Nvidia vs AMD on dx12 far less than how well that dx12 will widely and properly being used in games. Going by dx10/dx11, it was hardly impressive in terms of games that actually use them, nevermind using them well.
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+1. Spot on. All depends on how quickly and efficiently it gets adopted by those developing console games. We all know we'll only get crappy console ports anyway so who cares whether it's in dx11 or dx12, initially anyway. By the time we get Windows 10 and games developers consistently using it we'll have much better optimized dx12 cards. I for one will hold onto my 780 for a littl while longer.
 
+1. Spot on. All depends on how quickly and efficiently it gets adopted by those developing console games. We all know we'll only get crappy console ports anyway so who cares whether it's in dx11 or dx12, initially anyway. By the time we get Windows 10 and games developers consistently using it we'll have much better optimized dx12 cards. I for one will hold onto my 780 for a littl while longer.

Exactly, wasn't it only 18 months ago a lot of games moved away from dx9?!?! Yet look how long dx11 had been around for, not as if every developer stopped using the previous version of dx.
 
A puff piece from Nvidia.com no less...

and of course the usual begging off "oh, I just thought people would find it interesting" "oh, I just copy and pasted" "oh, I just happened to be reading it"

Nice to see you in here ;)

PR bah bah bah bah.. How anyone at this moment trust anything nvidia says is beyond me. 3.5 worth of bull..

Sure this blog isn't going to big up nvidia is it O Wait.

Are you moaning about nvidia again!


Looking forward to DX12 but it will not be on my current card anyway, i just hope either side bring out something worthy of an upgrade.
 
Until I have it in my hands, I'm not getting too excited.

It's clear that Microsoft are doing everything to make sure Win 10 has a positive reception. This to me is just more positive PR. Most likely driven by Microsoft.

I'm happy, that the early reaction to Dx12, is a positive one. But lets just wait and see.

Realistically, it's going to take devs a few years to really get to grips with it and realise it's potential.
 
Well looks like microsoft want their DX12 to look better than mantle and no better way than to make AMD cards look bad huh :D
Seems like nVidia are going to lead the pack and by pack i mean all their cards, which inevitably are going to PWN AMD cards into the silicon dust they came from.
 
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