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The RTX 3080 TI isn't going to be- EDIT - No We Were All Wrong!

Im glad that I was wrong, might even go with an RTX 3070 if the price compares favourably with the RDNA 2 series. What I find particularly surprising is how many shader units this card has, even more than the RTX 2080 ti, with a higher boost clock too and higher TFlop count.

I think that Nvidia must be feeling the pressure from AMD, and they want to make sure that at least some of their GPUs offer a similar perf. per £ .
 
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I'm quite surprised that the number of shader units is more than double the amount of the RTX 2080 TI.
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I dont think it does have double the physical number of shader cores but it does have 2xFp32 processing power over turing so they have been cheeky and doubled up on the cores.
 
g67575 said:
Im glad that I was wrong, might even go with an RTX 3070 if the price compares favourably with the RDNA 2 series. What I find particularly surprising is how many shader units this card has, even more than the RTX 2080 ti, with a higher boost clock too and higher TFlop count.

I think that Nvidia must be feeling the pressure from AMD, and they want to make sure that at least some of their GPUs offer a similar perf. per £ .
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I don't think AMD has anything to do with it. The R&D for these new GPU's would have started a long time ago. AMD have not yet shown anything and their last releases didn't exatly show great progress. The 20 series I always said was a risk - sacrifices to bring RTX to market, while of course pushing the boundaries on pricing with the new tech premium that many didn't really want. RT is now no longer 'new tech'

We'll see I guess but I think NV are currently untouchable in the GPU space. I doubt AMD will compete with the 3080 overall package (including RT capabilities) let alone the 3090. AMD are great in the CPU space though but I think will need another generation at least to play catch-up here. Given their progress in the CPU space, cant rule out closer competition in future.
 
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If AMD will find the way for CPU deal with RT then all NV cards would be same as AMD ones. If you can run RT on 1080ti then you could run it thru CPU. AMD have grate multi core performance then in games RT for 12 cores 24 threads should be no problemo with right technology and software/drivers support. Anyway still market catch of RT do it's thing to buy card for 700+ just to play beta Minecraft ahha with RT as there is not many titles yet.
 
The RTX 3070 is looking like excellent value (at least for an NV GPU) considering it's 5888 cores. It looks like all the benchmarks and early spec rumours were completely wrong. I think this shows you that you cant trust any non official info, e.g. in this case rumours not from AMD or NVIDIA themselves.

With the RTX 3090, Nvidia has managed to somehow more than double the shader cores of the last gen, even the Titan RTX; and keep it a secret too.

It certainly looks like the RTX 3070 will be the card to beat for AMD, unless they too have somehow produced a monster card. It's not surprising the 3070 wont release until October, its obviously positioned to compete with AMD's top end cards, and they wanna sell some 3090s first...

I wonder how many ROPs the 3070 will have? if its less than the RTX 2080 Ti, it might not perform as well at high resolutions like 4K. It also has just 8gb, the same as my R9 390 from 2015 :p. I wonder if a version with a bit more VRAM will be available?

Still, a tdp of just 220w is impressive.
 
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Yup, it certainly has. The RTX 3000 series GPUs are very different to the Tesla 7nm A100 GPUs released earlier this year, despite both using the ampere architecture. On paper, the A100 is probably a bit more powerful than the RTX 3070 overall, but should be beaten in other areas by the 3080 and 3090, except in memory bandwidth, which I think has diminishing returns for gamers anyway.

It's been fun to speculate though ofc :)

I'm just gonna wait now till RDNA 2 in october, and buy whichever GPU has the best price/ performance.
 
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Going to get the 3080 seems like a good buy to me. I feel very sorry for the people that have just bought the 2080ti at anything over £800 ( not trolling ).
 
yeah, dont suppose we will see price reductions for the remaining 2080 Ti's, or even the rest of the 2000 series. Still, i think they will compare favourably to the 3070 at 4k, due to extra vram and a potentially higher pixel rate.

The 3070 is gonna be a nice upgrade for my brother, who has a gtx 1080. The 3070 has more than twice the shader units of the 1080.

It will be nice to finally be able to play games like the Witcher 3 at 4k...
 
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