Poll: *** The Snow Leopard Thread - All Related Posts In Here ***

Are you going to upgrade to Snow Leopard?

  • Yes indeedy, that I am.

    Votes: 236 85.2%

  • No sir, not a chance.

    Votes: 41 14.8%
  • Total voters
    277
killsta said:
This has probably been asked in this thread, but..

Do normal 32bit apps, with no '64bit' support such as Firefox, Unison etc work when in the full 64bit kernel?
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Yes.

32 bit Kernel works with 32 bit and 64 bit applications. 64 bit apps can still use over 4GB ram.
32 bit Kernel only works with 32 bit kernel extensions (kext).

64 bit Kernel works with 32 bit and 64 bit applications.
64 bit Kernel only works with 64 bit kernel extensions (kext).
 
My concern is that with the graphics driver being a kernel extension, that OpenCL will only be able to address 2GB..

Seems Snow Leopard didn't like my Silicon Image 3112 PCI ExpressCard eSATA card drivers - they got moved to the "Incompatible Software" folder on the Mac HD root directory.
 
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Im reading reports over the net that Adobe are NOT supporting CS3 on SL....apparently it will work as usual, but just no updates for it from them anymore.....is their truth to this?
 
NickK said:
Yes.

32 bit Kernel works with 32 bit and 64 bit applications. 64 bit apps can still use over 4GB ram.
32 bit Kernel only works with 32 bit kernel extensions (kext).

64 bit Kernel works with 32 bit and 64 bit applications.
64 bit Kernel only works with 64 bit kernel extensions (kext).
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In that case why have Apple set the 32bit kernel as default rather than 64bit?
 
cu3ed said:
Im reading reports over the net that Adobe are NOT supporting CS3 on SL....apparently it will work as usual, but just no updates for it from them anymore.....is their truth to this?
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They will still provide updates for CS3, they're just not supporting CS3 running on Snow Leopard. So if you have any problems and try and use phone support, they will tell you it's unsupported.
 
Im sorry, but I spent a large amount of money for CS3, because I figured all the stuff thats wiped off the copies you can easily get was worth the money, but mostly the support.....ive had CS3 for under 2 years no or their about, and they are not providing support for it.......im pretty f'ed off by this...ive jsut order SL, now wondering wether to install it.
 
I'm struggling to understand this 64bit kernel stuff,

Is it worthwhile me setting my OSX install to boot into 64bit permanently?

I've got 4GB of RAM in my iMac early 2008 model, but at the moment all I've done is install SL on my iMac and that's it.

Only issues I'm having at the moment are:

- Logitech Control Center doesn't work, so the buttons on the mouse (thumb button) doesn't work.
- Perian - no support in Quicktime for .MKV files at the moment :(
 
SentineL-X said:
I'm struggling to understand this 64bit kernel stuff,

Is it worthwhile me setting my OSX install to boot into 64bit permanently?

I've got 4GB of RAM in my iMac early 2008 model, but at the moment all I've done is install SL on my iMac and that's it.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking as well!
 
killsta said:
In that case why have Apple set the 32bit kernel as default rather than 64bit?
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Because some applications use extensions - things like m-Audio all have extensions.

Rather than have a mass of support requests of unhappy users, they'll switch over the kernels later progressively as updates.
 
cu3ed said:
Im sorry, but I spent a large amount of money for CS3, because I figured all the stuff thats wiped off the copies you can easily get was worth the money, but mostly the support.....ive had CS3 for under 2 years no or their about, and they are not providing support for it.......im pretty f'ed off by this...ive jsut order SL, now wondering wether to install it.
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They do provide support for it, just not with Snow Leopard. If you want to use Snow Leopard and the Creative Suite you'll need to upgrade to CS4 or carry on using Leopard.
 
Here's a nice chart of the proliferation of 64 bit support in OS X

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I don't think a 64bit kernel provides any benefit unless you have over 32gb of ram, which you probably don't, so I wouldn't fret too much.

Edit - oops, it's a 4gb cap. I've read that your apps can still use more if they're 64bit, but I'm not sure how that can work if you're on a 32bit 4gb kernel.
 
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vonhelmet said:
I don't think a 64bit kernel provides any benefit unless you have over 32gb of ram, which you probably don't, so I wouldn't fret too much.

Edit - oops, it's a 4gb cap. I've read that your apps can still use more if they're 64bit, but I'm not sure how that can work if you're on a 32bit 4gb kernel.
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Two options for >4GB with a 32 bit kernel.

Use the easy caching library functions available on the standard system (so you can 'load' a 16GB picture but just see maximum of 4GB at one time as you scroll around it. (I use picture as an example)

Or the system uses paging to support the 64 bit address space (slower than pure 64 bit).
 
Just having a quick play... Apps are launching a bit quicker. Cover Flow in Finder is really quick - very impressed that it can show the previews for everything.
 
Just installed on my 2009 macbook pro 2.4ghz, boots quicker, slightly more nippy (although nothing to write home about), I have however gained 13gb of disk space ! :O , otherwise feels exactly the same, am sure ill find out more as time goes on.
 
Well after finally getting a clean install and not an upgrade (I was having a noob moment) everything seems okay. I've noticed the Finder is a lot faster just from restoring the files from my backup. Accessing shares on my network is also much quicker. :)
 
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