The speed of light has been broken ! "allegedly"

Inquisitor said:
You can't really make judgements on the factual accuracy of their findings if you don't even know what their experimental procedure was.
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then why was it in quotes?? that just makes me feel skeptical about it.
 
So they made microwaves (light) travel faster than light (itself) ?

The details in the article are overwhelming, shame it's not got a link to a proper scientific journal (*not* New Scientist).
 
Azza said:
First they think they can take over the world then they think they have made stuff travel faster than the speed of light. Them crazy germans. ;)
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Considering the discovery you have to wonder what came first - they could be rallying the troops as we speak :eek:

Achtung!

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
Considering the discovery you have to wonder what came first - they could be rallying the troops as we speak :eek:

Achtung!

ps3ud0 :cool:
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The could already be here, we just can't see them yet!
 
Inquisitor said:
Well to be fair, it's the Telegraph; it's not like their editors know anything about it :p
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lol true, claims like these really need to be justified and explained, but as you say, the telegraph isn't really the place for it!
 
Dogoid said:
don't get it, the thing that broke the speed of light , was light.

so back to square one.
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nope, as even light isn't meant to be able to travel faster than the speed of light ;).
Dist said:
'light' doesnt have mass though does it? so whats stopping something else without mass traveling just as fast, or faster?
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It has "relative mass", but not rest mass.
 
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Phnom_Penh said:
nope, as even light isn't meant to be able to travel faster than the speed of light ;).
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right, so,.


listen, don't start playing games , how can a rule be set which goes against the very rule in which its defined on?

actually the more i read the above sentence the more abstract it seems.


light is measured.
light is given a measurement.
measurement = value
value has a state
state = constant
light broke itself
new state?
 
ps3ud0 said:
You blind or something ;)

ps3ud0 :cool:
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:rolleyes:
I'm on about a proper object as in a potato or something :p

Although it'd look like the potato teleported if it was moving faster than the speed of light, but still I'd be impressed :D
 
Dogoid said:
right, so,.


listen, don't start playing games , how can a rule be set which goes against the very rule in which its defined on?

actually the more i read the above sentence the more abstract it seems.


light is measured.
light is given a measurement.
measurement = value
value has a state
state = constant
light broke itself
new state?
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if a car goes at 80mph then a new car was discovered to go at 90mph what is the difference? all measurements that were based on the old car need to be redone for the new car.

similar situation, however i dont think that the rules have been broken just yet. we will have to wait for more evidence, but im not sure he is 100% correct
 
Dist said:
can some1 explain (not with complex stuff) why the speed of light cant be broken?

ive never understood why the speed of light happened to be so special that nothing can be faster then it. People talk about instant travel and such at beyond light speeds, but if light has a speed of 186,000 miles per second, and you reach speeds of 187,000 miles per second, then traveling 374,000 miles will still take 2 seconds, it wont be instant.
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That would depend on your frame of reference. Relativity does not sit comfortably with day to day life, but it seems to be real. One aspect of it is that the rate at which time passes depends on relative velocity.

Say, for example, you got on a spaceship with sci-fi performance. It can somehow accelerate at 100 miles per second per second and somehow you don't get squished. You soon reach speeds of tens of thousands of miles per second and coast for a while. You travel for a few years and return to Earth. A couple of decades has passed for everyone on Earth. The difference isn't some kind of illusion. It is a real difference. It isn't in your mind. You could measure it with a clock, with a pair of trees (one on your ship, one on Earth - they would have grown to very different extents), anything.

The closer you get to the speed of light, the bigger the effect.

If you went faster than the speed of light, the theory predicts that time would be reversed, so that 374,000 miles would be travelled in less than no time.

Time dilation. Weird, but apparently true.

EDIT. Hmm...is it relative velocity or relative speed? If you went in one direction and then back in exactly the opposite direction, would the effect be cancelled out?
 
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A quick Google of "faster than light" gives some interesting results, but mostly a few years old. I like the one about the laser light leaving the chamber before it entered...to me that's time travel, exactly what my uneducated mind thinks of when talking about FTL.

Make it so #1
 
Dist said:
can some1 explain (not with complex stuff) why the speed of light cant be broken?

ive never understood why the speed of light happened to be so special that nothing can be faster then it. People talk about instant travel and such at beyond light speeds, but if light has a speed of 186,000 miles per second, and you reach speeds of 187,000 miles per second, then traveling 374,000 miles will still take 2 seconds, it wont be instant.
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the faster something travels more its mass will increase, the higher the mass the more energy/power required to move it.

any normal object reaches the speed of light its mass will be infinite so to move it forwards you would need infinte energy/power, which is impossible so = nothing with mass can travel faster then light.

now things like light, electricity have no mass to begin with therefore no matter how fast it travels its mass cannot increase as it never had any to begin with. light isn't the limit exactly, but because its isn't affected by the increase of mass it can travel theoretically as fast as it wants.

so because it has nothing to slow it down scientist see the speed of light as the fastest anything can travel, otherwise light should be faster.

another effect with travelling fast is time slows down, and if you travel at the speed of light time would have no affect you, to someone on the outside it would seem as if you arent moving at all but to you time would be normal. So if you travel at the speed of light (any faster and time would go backwards) you wouldnt reach any desination, the whole universe would end before you even moved an atom forward because without time movement/anything would be impossible.

so soon as you hit the speed of light theoretically you should either be frozen forever or dies with the universe if it ever ended, but if you travelled a bit slower then light to an outsider it would seem like you moving but very very slowly. This time you would reach your destination v quickly depending on how fast you are travling (not at the speed of light thought) it would seem mear seconds from your point of view or even instant, but when you get there a great deal of time would have passed centuries/eons/ect/ect,

sorry if you cant understand this, i love science but never bothered to study it lol (please correct me science people if i have got anything wrong its the only way i learn :) )

please forgive any spelling/gramer mistakes it is 3:30am after all.
 
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