The Sun Newspaper is now offcially "worthless"!

BowdonUK said:
At the moment all newspapers and mainstream media are going down the pan as instead of keeping to their standards they lowered themselves in to mostly clickbait internet gossip magazines.

The main problem is they can't compete with the Internet media.

I wonder what the buy rate is for newspapers in the UK compared to around the world. I know in the US hardly anyone buys newspapers. I've been at American Christmas parties were a person will buy a relative a newspaper as a present.
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Private Eye still sells well.

It's not your average drivelling newspaper though. Prints stories on assorted BS that notable people in government/business/law/other stuff have been getting up to.

Pretty sure it mostly sells to people who want to see if they or anyone they work with is being called out.
 
One More Solo said:
And you think this is down to a collapse in standards as opposed to every man, woman and child now having a device on their person that they can access the news from 24/7 for free…?

The Sun has always been bottom dwelling garbage, it’s just people can read its nonsense free of charge now.
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Maybe it's just me but having a physical paper, book, or magazine in my hand is far better to read than reading a screen. If it was true that a majority of people still read but moved over to Internet connected handheld devices then book reading would go through the roof. The device made for that, the Kindle, never really sold that well.

The old media, newspapers and to a smaller extent tv news media, tried to compete with the Internet using the clickbait style and lost. We don't need to see constant "breaking news" on the tv 24/7.

The reason why the Internet works is because of social interaction. People like a good rant and an argument. But the old media can't do that, or at least never really tried. The closest it come was back in the 90s with the original Talk Radio UK.
 
Angilion said:
I think the "Yes, Minister" scene about the UK press still rings true all these years later. Not in all the details about each one as there have been some changes, but in general. The UK press is pretty poor.
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For the people that wanted to see this again (or missed it entirely, somehow) :)
 
BowdonUK said:
I wonder what the buy rate is for newspapers in the UK compared to around the world. I know in the US hardly anyone buys newspapers. I've been at American Christmas parties were a person will buy a relative a newspaper as a present.
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You may be right about this now, but when I would regularly vacation in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area of Florida in the eighties, nineties and noughties, there were dozens of coin operated newspaper vending machines on corners out in the burbs.
If I didn’t go out in search of the Tampa Tribune, it’s offshoot Hernandez Today, or St. Petersburg Times by midday, they’d all be gone.
The papers gradually closed down, or were bought by the Tampa Bay Times, but I’ve been told that the Tampa Bay Times is only available online now.
 
Jean-F said:
You may be right about this now, but when I would regularly vacation in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area of Florida in the eighties, nineties and noughties, there were dozens of coin operated newspaper vending machines on corners out in the burbs.
If I didn’t go out in search of the Tampa Tribune, it’s offshoot Hernandez Today, or St. Petersburg Times by midday, they’d all be gone.
The papers gradually closed down, or were bought by the Tampa Bay Times, but I’ve been told that the Tampa Bay Times is only available online now.
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I think its a shame that the physical newspaper is slowly disappearing. I know online they have big problems generating money. Most of the local newspaper websites I visit are full of adverts, and they block access if I put my adblocker on.

My local newspaper around here closed down and then eventually someone else bought it and started selling it again in lower numbers. But they also rely on their online presense. I turn off the adblocker on the local websites or business sites I trust so they can make some money.
 
JRS said:
Get yourself a Britbox trial and watch the series. It's a true-to-life documentary masquerading as a comedy.
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For anyone who hasn't seen the series (it was quite a long time ago, about 40 years ago IIRC), I'll add that it's either two series or one series with two names. It depends how you look at it. "Yes, Minister" leads into "Yes, Prime Minister" when the minister becomes PM. Same characters, same everything but it added scope for the writers to create storylines that wouldn't have fit a minister. It's a masterwork of comedy, in part because of the realism JRS refers to. Not in the stories per se, but in the way politics works. Not just in the UK - it was popular in numerous countries for the same reason.
 
BowdonUK said:
Maybe it's just me but having a physical paper, book, or magazine in my hand is far better to read than reading a screen. If it was true that a majority of people still read but moved over to Internet connected handheld devices then book reading would go through the roof. The device made for that, the Kindle, never really sold that well.

The old media, newspapers and to a smaller extent tv news media, tried to compete with the Internet using the clickbait style and lost. We don't need to see constant "breaking news" on the tv 24/7.

The reason why the Internet works is because of social interaction. People like a good rant and an argument. But the old media can't do that, or at least never really tried. The closest it come was back in the 90s with the original Talk Radio UK.
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Internet is for talk not for news, part of the problem of the world today is people are getting their news from social media gossip and misinformation and not from a regular news outlet anymore hence everyone living in their own bubble of see no hear no speak no contrary views to their preconceived ideas.
 
Brookert said:
Fingers crossed the Guardian will join the Sun in being totally worthless.
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It pretty much is, they have to get more and far left wing opinions on as clickbait, one to get the frothing at the mouth ultra leftists from their echo chambers on Reddit (see r/Greenland pleasant or r/United Kingdom) or to get the right wing political groups to mock it. Both of which get the required traffic needed for the advertising.

I'm not sure there is a politically central new source these days.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Internet is for talk not for news, part of the problem of the world today is people are getting their news from social media gossip and misinformation and not from a regular news outlet anymore hence everyone living in their own bubble of see no hear no speak no contrary views to their preconceived ideas.
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This is true.

I saw a story about Biden supposedly saying he'd been in office for 15 months. But the video that it was about, and they quoted him i.e. you could see him speaking, wasn't talking about his time in office. He was talking about the duration of the virus. Yet everyone in the comments section assumed, because of the video headline, that he had messed up talking about his Presidency time. This was even repeated on other news services.

I was surprised that no one other person said "wait a minute, this is a wrong headline".

We seem to live in an unquestioning world these days.
 
BowdonUK said:
This is true.

I saw a story about Biden supposedly saying he'd been in office for 15 months. But the video that it was about, and they quoted him i.e. you could see him speaking, wasn't talking about his time in office. He was talking about the duration of the virus. Yet everyone in the comments section assumed, because of the video headline, that he had messed up talking about his Presidency time. This was even repeated on other news services.

I was surprised that no one other person said "wait a minute, this is a wrong headline".

We seem to live in an unquestioning world these days.
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At least you still apply critical thinking.

mmj_uk would have swallowed that video up as proof he has dementia.
 
newspapers were dead when people started getting access to the internet on mobile phones.

I bet advertising space in newspapers is really cheap these days to and if you want a "sponsored article" since places like the DM seem to always have them promoting some book or business
 
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