The thought police come knocking...

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A member of the public calls for the resignation of MP Andrew Gywnne and 2 police officers show up at her door!

What is happening in this country!?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Detectives call on grandmother 'for criticising Labour councillors'

Detectives were last night accused of acting like East Germany 's feared Stasi secret police for quizzing Helen Jones over her calls for the resignation of local councillors embroiled in the WhatsApp scandal.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

The police admitted no crime had been committed, so why was they there?

Here is the Blackbelt Barristers take on the mattee;

 
GGizmo said:
The police admitted no crime had been committed, so why was they there?
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*were

It says why in the article [well, the Telegraph one at least].

A spokesperson for Greater Manchester Police said: ‘We spoke to the woman for six minutes to advise she was the subject of a complaint of harassment and to answer any questions she may have.

“No further action is necessary as no crime has been committed. We are under a duty to inform her that she is the subject of a complaint.

“The genuine threats that have been made to local councillors recently have meant it has been more necessary to ensure all reports are looked at.
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So, to break the article down more succinctly.

The rise of genuine threats against officials means reported incidents get investigated more diligently.

A complaint of harassment had been made against her.

The police have a duty to inform her that a complaint has been made against her.

Police inform women of the complaint, get her statement and tell her she's not in any trouble and hasn't broken any laws.

Gutter press make click bait article. [The main outlets running with this seem the Mail, Telegraph and GB News]

Profit???
 
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The Times on this said:
A spokesman said: “We spoke to the woman for six minutes to advise she was the subject of a complaint of harassment and to answer any questions she may have. No further action is necessary as no crime has been committed.

“We are under a duty to inform her that she is the subject of a complaint. The genuine threats that have been made to local councillors recently have meant it has been more necessary to ensure all reports are looked at. On this day officers were making 203 arrests for crimes like assault, burglary and rape. Tackling these priorities are why the complaint was dealt with two days after it was reported.”
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So she was the subject of a complaint of harassment...and the police treated this so (un)seriously that they waited two days to speak to her to let her know she'd been complained about and to answer any questions she might have had...

Huh.
 
Freakbro said:
*were

It says why in the article [well, the Telegraph one at least].

So, to break the article down more succinctly.

The rise of genuine threats against officials means reported incidents get investigated more diligently.

A complaint of harassment had been made against her.

The police have a duty to inform her that a complaint has been made against her.

Police inform women of the complaint, get her statement and tell her she's not in any trouble and hasn't broken any laws.

Gutter press make click bait article. [The main outlets running with this seem the Mail, Telegraph and GB News]

Profit???
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There is no crime. The police aren't obligated to tell someone about a complaint. They should tell that person complaining it isn't a police matter.
 
GGizmo said:
There is no crime.
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Harassment is a crime, that was the complaint made to the police.

GGizmo said:
The police aren't obligated to tell someone about a complaint.
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The police say they are, right there in the article, I even bolded it for you

GGizmo said:
They should tell that person complaining it isn't a police matter.
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So harassment isn't a police matter now? Ok, who would you complain to if you were being harassed?
 
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Freakbro said:
Harassment is a crime, that was the complaint made to the police.
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It wasn't harassment. The police said that themselves.

Freakbro said:
The police say they are, right there in the article, I even bolded it for you
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So? Use your own common sense.

Have you actually read what she wrote? She's called for resignations of people from the WhatsApp group.

Interesting how the police didn't visit any of the people in the group despite it being reported that people were making racist and antisemitic posts.

Freakbro said:
So harassment isn't a police matter now? Ok, who would you complain to if you were being harrassed?
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Again the police said no crime had been committed. The woman even asked if she continued to do what she did what would the police do. They replied nothing.

Would you be happy for the police to come knocking at your door for calling for Farage to resign? So they can give you some "advice".
 
Hoping that someone resigns and posting it is harassment now?
Jesus, what the **** is wrong with these wet weak man babies.
To add I mean the councillor.
 
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JonRGV250 said:
Hoping that someone resigns and posting it is harassment now?
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Obviously not.

JonRGV250 said:
Jesus, what the **** is wrong with these wet weak man babies.
To add I mean the councillor.
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Yea, looks like the guy was trying to weaponise the system. Thankfully we don't have the Stasi or "thought police" (no matter how much the right wing dregs like to bleat on about it) and the police after doing what they have to (ie: look into it) said there was no problem.
 
Freakbro said:
Yea, looks like the guy was trying to weaponise the system. Thankfully we don't have the Stasi or "thought police" (no matter how much the right wing dregs like to bleat on about it) and the police after doing what they have to (ie: look into it) said there was no problem.
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You've literally just seen the thought police knocking at someones door, and you think it's ok as they were just following orders.
 
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Freakbro said:
Ok, who would you complain to if you were being harassed?
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The detectives at Greater Manchester Police? :p

I would love to think my local force would have told the MP to do one but they would have to drag themselves out of the local McDonalds first.
 
GGizmo said:
You've literally just seen the thought police knocking at someones door....
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Please stop calling this thought policing as its not that.... It stops becoming a thought when it is verbalised or written. Of course "Thought Policing" is far more dramatic and click-baity (like your title is)
 
Richie said:
Never read 1984 :confused:
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Ok so in 1984 the Thought Police rely on surveillance and informants to choose whom to question for their Thought Crimes. Hence why the title of the thread is not ridiculous it is rather in line with the concept Orwell laid out, but obviously plainly not in the totalitarian sense of the book.
 
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