The Witcher 3 - Good show for AMD

[Combat squirrel]

I would say it further shows how awful amd processor's are, a 5ghz 8 core getting owned by a 4 core 3.4ghz...which is obvious really.

 

[mmj_uk]

Buck for buck though its still intels game and that doesnt include the power saving benefits

4670 @ 72fps

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9590 @ 64.6 fps

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I know what I'd go for 8fps more for 6 quid less

Not to mention that you can easily overclock the Intel quad by more than 25% whereas the FX9590 is already very close its limit, no need for a high end cooler either and you can probably use a cheaper PSU.

 

[Nedb37]

Couple of people pointing out that Witcher 3 is clearly GPU dependant, just curious to know which, or what kind of games, are CPU heavy?

 

[Ayahuasca]

MMO's, anything with CPU based physics (ARMA 3 for example)

 

[Wucked]

Some RTS titles are quite CPU heavy as well, the Supreme Commander games spring to mind.

 

[Nedb37]

Ah ok, thanks. How long before more titles come out that start taking advantage of CPU core/threading etc..? As in, when will it be mainstream? Asking along the lines of future proofing.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Well DX12 looks to make much more use of the CPU so towards the end of this year is when the first DX12 games are rumoured.

 

[joeyjojo]

Ah ok, thanks. How long before more titles come out that start taking advantage of CPU core/threading etc..? As in, when will it be mainstream? Asking along the lines of future proofing.

Well DX12 looks to make much more use of the CPU so towards the end of this year is when the first DX12 games are rumoured.

The trend is towards less CPU power and more GPU.

The main impact of DX12 will be requiring less CPU power, not more, since it allows the CPU to make many more draw calls to the GPU.

 

[Ayahuasca]

My understanding of DX12 was it will make more use of the CPU by allowing it to draw more calls instead of being bottlenecked and not using anywhere near full usage like we see now with DX11.

IIRC correctly early DX12 tests show an improvement with 6 cores over 4.

 

[teppic]

It's showing that the i3 would be a poor choice here, but then it was announced a while back that this game really needs a quad core or better.

One benchmark isn't enough anyway, it could be that certain parts of the game are much more CPU intensive, using more threads heavily, etc.

 

[C64]

Nice to see the dual core Pentium G3258 getting utterly annihilated, as a dual core should in this age

 

[spoffle]

My understanding of DX12 was it will make more use of the CPU by allowing it to draw more calls instead of being bottlenecked and not using anywhere near full usage like we see now with DX11.

IIRC correctly early DX12 tests show an improvement with 6 cores over 4.

It makes more use of the cores, but it also helps schedule tasks more efficiently too, to address the issue where the GPU is effectively idle, waiting for the CPU to send it new tasks which is a bit more complicated than the draw calls.

They've been effectively playing a better game of Tetris with all the tasks necessary to run a game, getting them to slot better together to reduce idle time and wasted energy.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Nice video C64.

 

[Calin Banc]

The trend is towards less CPU power and more GPU.

The main impact of DX12 will be requiring less CPU power, not more, since it allows the CPU to make many more draw calls to the GPU.

They will find new ways to keep that CPU busy: AI, physics, bigger worlds,etc.

 

[joeyjojo]

Nice video C64.

Shows the FX8 matching the i5 to my eye.

 

[eddiew]

Couple of people pointing out that Witcher 3 is clearly GPU dependant, just curious to know which, or what kind of games, are CPU heavy?

Kerbal Space Program and heavily modded Minecraft and the two that regularly max (one thread of) my CPU while leaving the GPU at 30-50% usage.

Cities Skylines also appears to be a beast; 95% on all four cores with a big city and full speed

 

[meldarthx]

why would anyone buy the 9000 series when you can pick up 8320E for 100 or less; I got mine for 94 quid.....its sitting at 5.055Ghz right now with min effect at 1.464 volts.

I could take her higher...and most likely will but not seeing any issues in any games.....and been one of the most fun cpus I've had ocing since maybe the original Athlon.....

would I buy another? heck yea in a heart beat; they are that much value and 8320E seems to be a beast of overclocker....

 

[DragonQ]

Cities Skylines also appears to be a beast; 95% on all four cores with a big city and full speed

Yeah those kinds of games are CPU-intensive. I'm now curious as to whether it uses all 12 cores on my desktop, I shall check next time I play it.

 

[Concrete]

That video raises all sorts of questions about the validity of the original benchmarks.. is the original poster going to comment?

 

[joeyjojo]

That video raises all sorts of questions about the validity of the original benchmarks.. is the original poster going to comment?

Not really. Look at the horseriding section (the others are not intensive enough to discriminate).

In the first half of the video it shows the Intel chips lining up in order, in both FPS and degree of frame latency spikes, with about the same spread as the OP chart (i7 being about 2.25-2.5x faster than the Pentium).

In the second half it shows the 8350 almost matching the i5. Same as the OP.

The really nice thing about the video is the frame time charts, gives an idea of "smoothness".