THEA500 Mini has been announced via Retro Games Ltd. and distributed by Koch Media

I wonder if it will emulate the floppy disk read speed, ie terribly slow. Or if it will run faster but more prone to crashes.
True perfect emulation of the a500 would take 15 mins to load a game then hit a guru meditation error :rolleyes::o:cry:
Something like an ‘everdrive amiga’ for original hardware would be nice…similar to my mega everdrive x7

Yes, or swapping those 11 disks in Monkey Island 2!

Tbf WHDLoad is a lot faster by itself and makes running Amiga games much easier. And UAE includes options for speeding up drive emulation even with ADF files. I think the Everdrive equivalent is getting one of those CF/SD card adaptors and then having Tiny Launcher or AGS as the front-end to complete packs of games and demos. So it's very much possible to have something just as accessible.
 
Yes, or swapping those 11 disks in Monkey Island 2!

Tbf WHDLoad is a lot faster by itself and makes running Amiga games much easier. And UAE includes options for speeding up drive emulation even with ADF files. I think the Everdrive equivalent is getting one of those CF/SD card adaptors and then having Tiny Launcher or AGS as the front-end to complete packs of games and demos. So it's very much possible to have something just as accessible.
Are yeh. I remember now, Simon the Sorcerer on 15 disks. The box weighed a tonne!
Mortal Kombat II was the worst, you did a fatality and sometimes needed to swap disk mid gameplay, then swap back after the fatality. I guess the sound / sprite samples were spread across disks
 
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Are yeh. I remember now, Simon the Sorcerer on 15 disks. The box weighed a tonne!
Mortal Kombat II was the worst, you did a fatality and sometimes needed to swap disk mid gameplay, then swap back after the fatality. I guess the sound / sprite samples were spread across disks

Operation flash point had a lot of discs.
 
Operation flash point had a lot of discs.
Operation flashpoint? Isnt that a relatively new game? Are you sure you dont mean something else

I remember Beneath a Steel Sky being on about 15 odd disks too. The floppy drive on the Amiga (500 at least) was terrible
 
Operation flashpoint? Isnt that a relatively new game? Are you sure you dont mean something else

I remember Beneath a Steel Sky being on about 15 odd disks too. The floppy drive on the Amiga (500 at least) was terrible

I was thinking of operation stealth point and clicker but yeah your right it was Beneath a Steel Sky i was thinking of.
 
So getting Amiberry working on my Pi400 was a bit more faffy than I expected but got there.

There are YouTube videos but many seemed to miss a step or assume something which might not be the case.

Seeing how little the keyboard is required I'm actually thinking of getting an A500 mini now just for the ease of use, save states etc. and to support the creators.

Do love the Pi400 so will be keeping that anyway.
 
So getting Amiberry working on my Pi400 was a bit more faffy than I expected but got there.

There are YouTube videos but many seemed to miss a step or assume something which might not be the case.

Seeing how little the keyboard is required I'm actually thinking of getting an A500 mini now just for the ease of use, save states etc. and to support the creators.

Do love the Pi400 so will be keeping that anyway.
This x1000. I commented on a video earlier

Nostalgia is often just rose tinted glasses. If most people get a maxi and an exact, iconic A500 with working floppy drive arrives, i expect the reaction would be “damn, this is big, ugly and games take 15 minutes to load then crash” It certainly was iconic, for sure!

Another part of the nostaglia for me is a 50% chance of getting a Guru Meditation error either before starting a game or even worse when into it.

Moonstone for example. I defeated the whirlwind woman enemy in the valley of the gods, so maybe 2 hours into the game as a kid. Then it hung with Guru Meditation. Time to get a more reliable machine

Also, I expect some original hardware owners are afraid it will drive the price of their hardware down. I have seen a sudden surge of Amiga hardware on auction and local thrift type websites. If the A500 mini is a hit, no doubt people will not bother with old unreliable hardware and having to deal with peoples mods to make them more reliable - Gotek drives, new PSUs, adapters to support HDMI and other mods. The A500 mini may drive prices down, also £1000 for some A1200 bundles, insane. I sold my A500 big bundle in about 2002 for £50 at a carboot sale (many big box games, A500+, 1mb ram upgrade, mouse, joystick etc.) Though it wasnt 'retro' then, just an old crappy Amiga :( I dont expect the A500 mini (if it's a hit) to fully crash the Commadore original hardware market but it would shake things up as I expect some might get the A500 mini and then think "I wonder what it would be like to compare it to the real thing" They also wont want to spend £300 on the real thing though, but £150 may tempt them for an A500 original with a few games might.

Emulation setup is the main thing for me on the 500 mini. I've been into IT in general since the early 90s when I got my Amiga and have setup Retroarch, EmulationStation, WinUAE, PSPUAE, winfellow and fs-uae to play Amiga games I had as a child. By the time you have setup and configured the emulator to play a game, you no longer want to play that game! Each game often requires a few setting tweaks to get right so you launch a game 5-10 times to get it working reasonably well. By that time you want to try another game with those settings, but it doesnt work so rinse and repeat. Sometimes I just want to fire up Turrican II or Nebulus and have a quick 30 minute game rather than configuring an emulator with system settings and control settings for 28 minutes then play the game for 2 minutes. If the A500 mini is really plug and play and perfect, i'm sold. Unfortunately I can't see it happening but that's when the return process kicks in!

Interesting thought, the peripherals look well made as does the keyboard. I wonder if any savy modders could mod the keyboard to a working one? It would probably be a lot of effort to play 3 games that require a keybaord and the mini keyboard looks way too small but if its similar size to the A600, why not saw the lot out and stick an A600 keyboard in the casing? No reports of Workbench but dont see why Workbench cannot be WHDloaded, same for programs like Deluxe Paint

See "What retro things have you done today?" thread :)

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Why even both including games that hardly anyone has heard of or are just terrible. Probably down to licensing costs. Having a much better 10 games it better than including some 'filler' games.

If these 25 were included instead, it included a working A600 style keybaord and a couple of joysticks I would happily pay £250. I'm certainly it would fly off the shelves too at £200

Alien breed tower assault
Pinball Dreams
Chase HQ
The Settlers
Speedball 2
Stunt car racer
The Chaos Engine
Worms
Turrican II
Sensible Soccer
Nebulus
Rick Dangerous
Dynablaster
Fantasy world Dizzy
Lemmings
Cannon Fodder
Super Cars II
Super Skidmarks
Another World
Simon the Sorcerer
Lotus Turbo challenge 2
Robocop
Super Stardust
Superfrog
Rainbow Islands
 
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I guess a big cost part of the 500 mini is licensed kick roms for the 500 and 1200. Are others supported as im sure i read cd32 was supported on the a500 mini?

It does take a lot of time to configure each game to make it play correctly (sound right with no stuttery sound, game lag or input)
It says this emulates perfectly, I might buy it and if theres any lag or stutter then it can be returned.

I di fear itll go the same way as my megadrive and other retro devicss though. Use for a few weeks then sat doing nothing. Still, playing Turrican II emulated ‘perfectly’ would be fun.
Can quickshot usb joysticks be purchased? Or serial to usb adapters. A good joystick or 2 for this would be nice

edit - something like this needed?

https://monsterjoysticks.com/9-pin-joystick-to-usb-adapter

…Or just connect a usb joystick. I also have things like 2 official snes pads to single usb adapter.
Mini bluetooth keyboard too which ive found the usb adapter for it but not the keyboard.
Would serve quite well for general use on the A500 mini presuming bluetooth works

Will this work with one of these?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/zipstick-joystick-amiga-excellent-1776031416

I still have one of these from my C64, ST, Speccy, Amiga days.
Be good to use on the PC for these emulators
 
Will this work with one of these?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/zipstick-joystick-amiga-excellent-1776031416

I still have one of these from my C64, ST, Speccy, Amiga days.
Be good to use on the PC for these emulators
No, not without an adapter to usb which may or may not add input lag.
I had a Zipstick too for my A500, fantastic joystick.

This will work though (someone on here recommended it) sort of like a modern day usb Zipstick

SPEEDLINK SL-650212-BKRD Competition PRO EXTRA USB Joystick - Anniversary Edition, Retro-Arcade-Stick, schwarz-rot

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K9N36GG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_XHY2YCASN707QZ6XJ63B
 
No, not without an adapter to usb which may or may not add input lag.
I had a Zipstick too for my A500, fantastic joystick.

This will work though (someone on here recommended it) sort of like a modern day usb Zipstick

SPEEDLINK SL-650212-BKRD Competition PRO EXTRA USB Joystick - Anniversary Edition, Retro-Arcade-Stick, schwarz-rot

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K9N36GG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_XHY2YCASN707QZ6XJ63B
I dont like those they are too tight in movement, oh well

I thought this would work with the zipstick on PC?

https://monsterjoysticks.com/9-pin-joystick-to-usb-adapter

will work with this wont it?
https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/...5QScGPFaN_KbnSSDDdgmuyeC-ntkCSKgaAgDLEALw_wcB
 
Influencers starting to post Youtube videos on these as the NDA has lifted. Retro Recipes (second video) is much more in-depth, including a simple latency measurement of 3 frames - which is pretty much the lowest limit for these SoC setups.

Workbench is going to be a bit more convoluted getting it to work with WHDLoad although I'm sure simple guides will quickly appear. Overall it looks like Retro Games have done a really good job here. I thought the faster loading of games versus the RPi 400 was particularly impressive.


 
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