Theft attempt

wazza300 · 12 Dec 2012 at 13:27

Some low life tried to steal my zx10 last night when i was over in selly oak :mad:

,they bolt cropped the padlock but looksliek they got disturbed and left it

thank god they didnt mangle the ignition lock as they cost a fortune

just beware where you chain it up ect,was my fault i guess as i used a dingy lit carpark

now im left with a chain and need a good padlock, recommendations anyone?

looking at the oxford monster locks but they only come with the chain which i dont need

DanF · 12 Dec 2012 at 13:31

The oxford monster is a bit like cheese compared to bolt croppers, have a look on youtube for the chain attack vids

Unfortunately most chains can be cropped, well the ones you'd want to carry with you on a bike.

I've got a Almax 3 series on my rear wheel and an old oxford monster on my front wheel now, the difference is pretty obvious when you see then together, one looks like it should be use to moor up boats.

Almax chains

Oh the way I lock up my bike is put a thick bike cover over it that has chain holes at both wheels, the bike locks go through these keeping the bike cover on real tight, then they can't see what the bike actually is without a lot of effort.

wazza300 · 12 Dec 2012 at 13:47

this was when i was out n about,

thats the lock it was a squire lock n chain,i was thinking of this though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oxford-Ba...sure_Cycling_BikeLocks_SR&hash=item1e736c22a0

it looks too thick for bolt croppers

thepeteh · 12 Dec 2012 at 14:19

These chains are the business,

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/YmYrc7298988/All-Products/c-6-73/

I use a CISA lock at work like the one here but I lost the key (for a 20ft container) 10 seconds with a 9" angle grinder and it was free.

Ultimately spend what you can afford, but there's lots of old sayings that ring true, like the chain is only as strong as the weakest link, I.E. the padlock.

I would be much happier using the CISA on a chain as it'd be very difficult to hold still to cut, I was lucky in that it was very firmly wedged onto a container door.

A large pair of croppers will get through that chain you posted but the hope is your average street thief wont have a huge set with them!

DanF · 12 Dec 2012 at 19:18

Snaggle · 12 Dec 2012 at 21:17

they obviously heard on the internetz that your wonder bike only needs £6 to fill so decide to pinch it and sell the technology

Unlucky chap.. Almax time !!

wazza300 · 12 Dec 2012 at 22:41

Persil said:
they obviously heard on the internetz that your wonder bike only needs £6 to fill so decide to pinch it and sell the technology

Unlucky chap.. Almax time !!

haha probably,cant have **** all these days,thieving *******s

do these almax chains come with padlocks? im only after a good padlock really,looks impressive though

just be carefull all of you,i was so lucky

DanF · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:05

Ah yeah they tend to bundle the chain with Squire SS65CS padlocks, looks like they are about £75-85 to buy new. The loop isn't exposed much as the casing goes up pretty high around it.

squire padlock

wazza300 · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:37

thanks for that link,the above lock that got cropped was a squire,the names wore off it but its a good 6-7 years old now,tbh i dont trust my old chain either

they ought to crop the thieves fingers off when they catch them

Burnsy2023 · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:39

Did you report this to the Police?

wazza300 · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:45

Burnsy2023 said:
Did you report this to the Police?

nah,there was no damage to my bike just the padlock snipped,they either got disturbed or they are planning on me parking in the same spot next week without a lock on it? idk

theres no way for them to hotwire it as its kawasaki immobilized,my guess is they would have lifted into a van and broke it up later for spares

its just gonna make me even more aware of locking it up and in a well lit place now,ill take this as a warning

Burnsy2023 · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:59

wazza300 said:
nah,there was no damage to my bike just the padlock snipped,they either got disturbed or they are planning on me parking in the same spot next week without a lock on it? idk

theres no way for them to hotwire it as its kawasaki immobilized,my guess is they would have lifted into a van and broke it up later for spares

its just gonna make me even more aware of locking it up and in a well lit place now,ill take this as a warning

Can I suggest you do report it? It makes a difference even if they can't find who did it. The more it happens the more patrols you'll get and these may catch someone in the act or suchlike.

wazza300 · 13 Dec 2012 at 00:11

yeah true,they might patrol that carpark more often

@DanF have you got one of these chains? what version the series 3 or 4? 4 might be too heavy,just checked my old chain its 15mm thick

edd1e · 13 Dec 2012 at 08:55

bad luck mate - at least they didn't do any damage.

BennyC · 13 Dec 2012 at 12:40

I had an Almax chain & lock, the lock left no part of the loop exposed so couldn't be cropped and fairly certain it couldn't be drilled either. In fact from memory the loop from the chain made the loop on the lock pretty much inaccessible.

The chain itself was ridiculously heavy & thick! Grinder only so you'd hear anyone if they were trying to thieve it. Worth shelling out on.

apeksdiver · 13 Dec 2012 at 12:44

Do you use a disk lock too? RiDE magazine do tests on kit and will have a good recommendation.

wazza300 · 13 Dec 2012 at 12:59

how heavy are these chains? i need to carry it in my rucksack

@apeksdiver trouble with a disclock though is it doesnt stop them lifting the bike into the back of a transit van

DanF · 13 Dec 2012 at 13:48

Yeah I have a series 3 chain and the squire lock, it's a heavy chain with really thick long links. it only just gets through the chain loops on my oxford stormex cover, the series 4 would be too big. I wouldn't want to carry this chain on a bike, it's just too much heavy metal to be strapped anywhere near you especially on your back. The 1m chain and lock is maybe 10+kg?

The series 4 would be for home use only, if you had a garage or something and a big ground anchor. The series 3 I have doesn't even fit through the ground anchors that are fitted in our carpark

I have this round the back wheel and around a thick wooden post then the thinner oxford monster through the front wheel and the small ground anchor there.

PwnDirect · 14 Dec 2012 at 22:34

I honestly think 42 inch (or similar) bolt cutters should be banned or require a licence.

I remember having a long discussion with a group of friends that work in various fields including construction, scrap, fabrication & the car trade, no ligate business ever use them because of the mess & effort.

Dogbreath · 15 Dec 2012 at 10:59

PwnDirect said:
I honestly think 42 inch (or similar) bolt cutters should be banned or require a licence.

I remember having a long discussion with a group of friends that work in various fields including construction, scrap, fabrication & the car trade, no ligate business ever use them because of the mess & effort.

What mess and effort? Plenty of people use large bolt croppers perfectly legally, e.g. I've seen construction workers use them for cutting rebar. Should portable angle grinders be banned? How about cobalt drills/hacksaws?