Thermalright TRUE Black 120

Big.Wayne · 15 Nov 2009 at 23:23

Jakstaar2007 said:
i am assuming there is an easier way to fit it. As i know that when i come to remove/reinstall the heatsink, it will be just as difficult, as the only reason i managed to fit it this time was because i persisted, not because of a mental breakthrough

Hey Jakstaar2007,

I'm a bit perplexed by your story as the TRUE is the *easiest* heatsink to fit and refit not taking into account that the motherboard needs to be removed to fit the backplate . . .

I'm guessing you had a problem getting the backplate to stay in place while you lowered the board? . . . A few years ago the TRUE backplate came with double-sided tape so that it could be stuck into position, a reasonable solution but some people groaned because they destroyed the motherboard while trying to unstick the backplate heh!

. . . Thermalright revised the design and did away with the sticky back plastic!

Anyways if getting the backplate to stay in place while you fit the board is indeed the problem that did your nut in then this is the simple solution shown to me by WJA96 . . .

Fit the backplate and use two of the spring loaded screws to hold it in place
Installed the motherboard
Remove the two sping loaded screws, apply TIM
Install the heatsink and secure it in place using the four spring loaded screws

Picture above is just after the board has been lowered into place!

The only problem I can possibly see is if you have a case which features non-standard extra tall case standoffs that hold the board up so high the backplate falls down behind the board? . . . If that is indeed the issue then the fix is simply to stick a bit of foam to the reverse of the backplate so that when the board is installed the pressure from the wodge of foam will keep the backplate firmly in place with the four little screw cups poking though the LGA775 mounting holes! :cool:

Jakstaar2007 · 15 Nov 2009 at 23:37

Close...

I have the HAF 922 which has a hole in the motherboard tray behind the CPU socket so you don't have to remove the motherboard to install and remove the heatsink. However, obviously i cannot hold the backplate in place with this backplate.

Only other way is to do how some of the others have said and install in on a table top first.

Cheers for the suggestion anyway

toon_mad · 15 Nov 2009 at 23:39

interesting post, i will consider trying this next time i ever need to re attach mine. I thought of installing the TRUE in the tower, but knew the backplate underneath would just drop off.

The above might just work

JonJ678 · 15 Nov 2009 at 23:57

I put a line of electrical tape across the back of the board holding the plate in position. Sometimes I even put a cross.

faugusztin · 16 Nov 2009 at 08:09

Well, i allways install this type of heatsinks outside the case, it's so much easier (and sometimes even impossible to do in the case, perfect example is Scytha Ninja 2).

BeeP · 16 Nov 2009 at 08:36

My old Tuniq backplate had that sticky tape stuff on it....bum tweakage ahoy when taking it off.

Big.Wayne · 16 Nov 2009 at 11:53

Jakstaar2007 said:
I have the HAF 922 which has a hole in the motherboard tray behind the CPU socket so you don't have to remove the motherboard to install and remove the heatsink

Oh I see, never used a case like that personally so its not a problem I've run into myself, you should have mentioned that fact in your opening post.

Does make me wonder why they make cases with a hold behind the motherboard tray? . . . It's really not a normal thing!

faugusztin said:
Well, i allways install this type of heatsinks outside the case, it's so much easier

Aside from people with non standard cases I can't see how anyone can consider the TRUE heatsink hard to fit? :confused:

It's one of the easiest heatsinks I ever fitted and is pretty much the main reason I've used that heatsink the past few years, its perfect for people that swap out chips a lot, sod having to remove the motherboard everytime a chip is swapped out!

faugusztin · 16 Nov 2009 at 11:56

Big.Wayne said:
Aside from people with non standard cases I can't see how anyone can consider the TRUE heatsink hard to fit?

In my opinion it is not hard to fit, but usually you have limited space inside the case. That's why i do everything outside of the case - plenty and plenty of space

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Big.Wayne · 16 Nov 2009 at 12:02

A long magnetic screwdriver makes it super easy to attach the spring loaded screws in hard to reach places . . . . What your saying is you remove the motherboard if/when you swap CPU's? . . . I can imagine it being a tough task trying to fit a motherboard with a TRUE attached to it?

SMAndy · 16 Nov 2009 at 12:33

I installed this heatsink from within the case. Of course, my motherboard tray has a handily backplate sized hole, for things like this. - I have the TRUE rev.c, non-copper. heatsink facing up/down, fan on the lower section, pointing up. Case fan is within a fans distance of the heatsink, exhausting out of the top, so it works like a push/pull.

Worked perfectly. There is a bit of play on it, but the springs are powerful enough to hold it in place and not let it move.

AMD PII X3 720 @ 3.5Ghz: Idle, 20-23°C, Load: ~35°C (1 hour Prime95)

Can't get much better than that

Need to try boosting my vCore to 1.45 and try overclocking again. Currently got it on 1.4v.

faugusztin · 16 Nov 2009 at 12:40

Big.Wayne said:
A long magnetic screwdriver makes it super easy to attach the spring loaded screws in hard to reach places . . . . What your saying is you remove the motherboard if/when you swap CPU's? . . . I can imagine it being a tough task trying to fit a motherboard with a TRUE attached to it?

Yes i do, and putting motherboard with TRUE inside the case is much easier than having to deal with backplate which doesn't stick to motherboard inside the case...

Big.Wayne · 16 Nov 2009 at 13:15

Do you have one of these cases with a hole in the motherboard tray faugusztin?

If not then why don't you hold the backplate in position with a few screws (as pictured above?) . . .

setter · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:01

The new style TRUE backplates are a godsend in this situation, once you install it the first time the whole assembly stays in place allowing removal of the cooler for cleaning, all that has to be removed are two spring loaded screws that hold the clamp in place. Ive also found it to be more secure than the x clamp style bracket, (no need for washers).

toon_mad · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:15

didnt know about that backplate.

does this come with the newer true's or seperate?

setter · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:17

I had to purchase it seperately toon for my i7 build, prior to that i used the standard s775 x clamp. Though iirc this model is available to buy seperately and supplied with the new rev c of the ultras.

EDIT: see here for info.

http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/download_images/booklet/tb120revc/775.pdf

JonJ678 · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:23

Looks nice setter.

I still prefer the water cooling approach, four M4 screws, four nuts and a backplate permanently attached to the board then the heatsink bracket slides down the screws. Works well with the TRUE if the screws are fairly short.

setter · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:29

Aye ive seen that with the x clamp brackets, certainly a very neat and low cost solution, when i first got the ultra the backplate was a bit of a curse to fit due to it slipping from the holes on the mobo, its a lot handier when you can keep it in place permanently.

faugusztin · 16 Nov 2009 at 18:47

Big.Wayne said:
Do you have one of these cases with a hole in the motherboard tray faugusztin?

If not then why don't you hold the backplate in position with a few screws (as pictured above?) . . .

Well, can't really call it hole, rather 3 or 4 smaller holes. And yes, i could - but i don't change CPU so many times anyway, i change boards more often

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Jakstaar2007 · 16 Nov 2009 at 19:04

That looks like it wouldn't be as secure. If it is i would definitely buy it.

setter · 16 Nov 2009 at 19:08

Ive found it to be vastly superior to the x clamp, with it i was able to twist the cooler about, on this new bracket it would take a lot of force to get it to move, plus it makes removal of the cooler for cleaning so much easier, no need to remove the motherboard to take off the backplate.