Think i'll have to go back to Nvidia

[kitch9]

mine turned out to be Kaspersky. Issue now is it creates artifects in Vantage.
Unsure on games but shall try later.

If it appears in games then i shall go back to 9.5

It's known with Vantage. I had it for first run then it went away....

 

[Final8y]

Sorry to pee on everyone's parade but Drivercleaner caused this issue for me twice. My last card was Nvidia and Drivercleaner worked fine (If it actually does anything.) in the sense it caused no issues.

I bought my 4870x2 which installed fine first time, but when I updated drivers I did the uninstall, sweep, paranoid thing thinking that the driver nazis were gonna create mutant drivers that made my games run 0.5% slower if I did not do it and I found I could not re-install the new ones. Only a fresh install of windows fixed it.

This happened twice until I a guy from ATI told me at Guru3d that there was no need to uninstall and definately no need to sweep when updating Vista ATI drivers due to the improved driver model. There is growing opinion over there that sweeper is hosing certain peoples installs, as it is deleting system files that may be needed.

Driversweeper does not remove the files from your HDD, it only deletes them which in effect flags the files as ok to overwrite. They are still there until they get overwritten, so you are not protecting yourself from anything by sweeping at all.

Ati's install manager will stop all running services, update what files are needed, and then verify the installed files in one click. There is no need to uninstall first or anything. I do it this way now and haven't experienced one issue for the last 10 months or so.....

*Edit* Updating this way keeps all of your settings and profiles too, as its been designed that way........

+1

 

[AMG]

I ve been having issues with 3DMARK06 says it can't find something :S


vanage was fine through, unless I should install 3DMARK06 first than vantage but I don't think it will matter.


I made a habit of using driver sweeper to update drivers. I don't think it does nothing through :S

 

[magicroundabout]

no they're not clocked as i stick them to stock when running Vantage first time just to see the before gains.

 

[Final8y]

I ve been having issues with 3DMARK06 says it can't find something :S


vanage was fine through, unless I should install 3DMARK06 first than vantage but I don't think it will matter.


I made a habit of using driver sweeper to update drivers. I don't think it does nothing through :S

You need to get the latest Creative Labs OpenAL for 3DMARK06 on vista 64.

 

[mame]

What a lot of people do is: If they have a problem with a graphics card and it's an nvidia card, swear that they will never have nvidia again. OR, if it's an ATI card, swear that they will never have ATI again.

that reminds me, I'm never buying a motherboard on a monday ever again

 

[thegoonden]

could have formatted and reinstalled those apps by now, bite the bullet and format

buying a new graphics card to resolve this is insanity

Not really directed at you.....but at all the poor winfected individuals who have had their delicate brains so warped as to think that what you said makes perfect sense.


Coupla hundred quid for a card is cheaper than lost weeks getting windows into a usable condition and installing thousands of apps and games. I mean it's OK if you like 1001 system services and animated flummymajiggers eating your resources, doing Bill's bidding behind your back and generally giving you loads of hassle, and if all you ever use is scrotepad, outhouse excuse (I mean how ELSE could we keep the net half crippled with malware traffic) and internot exploiter......But if you want it to act a little like a computer, and have all the tools you need to make like tolerable, then it's not a 90mins-while-you-get-your-dinner-down-your-neck job at all.


I last installed Linux in 2004, still going strong still up to date, despite moving from one machine to another to another, despite it starting off as 32bit single core and now being 64 bit dual.

Linux=5 years.
Windows= 5 days apparently

I refuse to give in to the microsoft mantra (all together now) "reboot, reinstall, reformat, reinstall". Instead I back my windows up (properly with Acronis, not pointlessly with system(unlikely to)restore.



This is why I am suspicious as hell of people who say.......
"I have no issues with windows/ATI".
Of course you don't have any issues if you think it's normal to install an OS more than once a year.
PS: if you think CCC is bad, try their linux "drivers"......WOW, they cost me hundreds on a 2nd PC they were so bad, been running a separate Win and Lin box ever since, and they both now have NV cards, there is no way I'm rewarding ATI for the damage they caused in the past.

 

[Lightnix]

This is why I am suspicious as hell of people who say.......
"I have no issues with windows/ATI".
Of course you don't have any issues if you think it's normal to install an OS more than once a year.

I have been running the same XP install since December 2007 (Edit: Sorry, I was wrong there, it was the 3rd of October 2007, according to systeminfo). Since then I have had two motherboards and three - count 'em, three graphics cards from different vendors (one was an integrated chip from S3, one was an 8800 GTS 320MB and obviously my 4870 1GB now) and have upgraded from SP2 to SP3. I don't even know how people manage to do the whole reinstallation stuff, I really don't.

Actually while you're here, since you appear to be experienced with Linux, how do you go about forming a crossover cable network bridge that allows you to share an Internet connection under a Linux distribution (Mint would be preferable). I tried a while back using brctl but the best I could do was the client computer on the other end of the crossover cable could access the local network and the Internet but the host computer could not. Simple with the connection manager in Windows but never found a comparable solution for Linux systems. Thanks.

 

[thegoonden]

Sorry, me bro is the networking hotshot, I'm an idiot in that department, but there are some distro's that have a little wizard not unlike the windows one. Worth noting, that lots of modern networking kit bends the rules and will crossover internally when connecting two machine directly.

 

[JTrickle]

this has worked

bledd will be happy i'm not ditching ATI

Kudos for coming back and admitting it.

 

[magicroundabout]

i suppose with the amount of negative comments regarding ATI drivers i was quick to blame them when it wasn't and turned out to be Kaspersky blocking it.

Still unsure why it messes up Vantage now but that isn't a major issue.

 

[bledd]

gooden, i see what you're saying, but in the first post, he said "handful of apps and games"

i only install about 4 apps besides my games, and only have about 3 non steam games, since Steam is portable, restoring windows takes a matter of minute, and installing it fresh again and installing all drivers / apps takes 1 hour max

 

[kylew]

gooden, i see what you're saying, but in the first post, he said "handful of apps and games"

i only install about 4 apps besides my games, and only have about 3 non steam games, since Steam is portable, restoring windows takes a matter of minute, and installing it fresh again and installing all drivers / apps takes 1 hour max

Re-installing windows is so quick for me, it's far quicker than spending hours pointlessly troubleshooting.

I have had the same steam folder since before half-life 2 came out.

I keep all my important stuff on separate drives, steam is on my D drive. All I do is point the steam installation to the location of my existing steam folder after a new windows install. It installs steam and picks up all my games.

I haven't had to re-download steam games since I first downloaded them.

Same goes for any other apps really. Outlook, I just copy my PST file to another drive, or I just install a new windows over the old one, the type where your previous insstallation is moved to a folder called 'windows.old' then I just copy over anything I need.

Sometimes I just like having a fresh installation of windows too