Thinking of full upgrade

darreny

darreny

darreny

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Currently looking at the Denon avr4500h and q acoustics 7000i system in 9.2 or 11.2

With such small speakers all around is it worth running 2 subs at each end of the room to stop me being hit with highs before the bass. I'll be selling all my current gear, yamaha 1073, MA bx2, mission centre, MA bxfx and real strata 3 or is it better to keep the real and just buy q acoustics in pairs. Love the sound from my current system but want (and need) the benefits of current amps.

I don't use any of the dsp modes on the yamaha so won't miss those
 
Unless the phase is set incorrectly, or you have a very odd shaped room that places the sub a good distance away from the main speakers, then there shouldn't be a significant time alignment issue with a single sub. Having said that, two subs does help provide a more even sound-field. A lot depends on the set-up of the subs though. The question you need to ask is if the Denon can do room EQ for a sub at all, and if it can, then does it have the power to EQ two subs independently? Something along the lines of an Antimode might make a sensible purchase.

Personally, I'd keep the REL Strata III and try it with the 7000i speakers for a while. Yes, yes, we know who'll pop up and tell you that you have to spend a small ransom on huge drivers in big cabinets, but unless you feel that you missed out on lots of bass with the REL so far, then I'd be temped to keep it until you feel ready to upgrade it for something that digs deeper. My only slight reservation is that the 7000i speakers are really quite bass shy and the REL's crossover tops out at 95Hz.
 
I've had a look a while they look great for front duties where you are looking straight on and they would be in an alcove, for rear, side and height they're to deep and obtrusive.
I just want to get away from big box speakers now. So in your experiance what are the best small speakers to go with the rel
 
darreny said:
I've had a look a while they look great for front duties where you are looking straight on and they would be in an alcove, for rear, side and height they're to deep and obtrusive.
I just want to get away from big box speakers now. So in your experiance what are the best small speakers to go with the rel
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Probably some floorstanders for the front I'd imagine.
 
darreny said:
I've had a look a while they look great for front duties where you are looking straight on and they would be in an alcove, for rear, side and height they're to deep and obtrusive.
I just want to get away from big box speakers now. So in your experiance what are the best small speakers to go with the rel
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First thoughts turned to the Cambridge Audio Min 22 speakers for their wide dispersion and similar pricing to the 7000i speakers. However, they're even more bass-shy. Might still come back to them though for Atmos height duties.

Last time I looked, Monitor Audio Mass were on offer at a few places as the product is going end-of-life. These are hardly huge, but in common with the far more expensive Radius 90, they couple a decent bass driver with a high-grade tweeter to make a very effective mini monitor. Because the cabinet is about the size of a 2lb bag of sugar or flour then they're capable of getting down to 80Hz.
 
hornetstinger said:
Keep your amp and sub upgrade speakers upgrade sub if movies is a priority as strata is a music sub not high output design
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I'm needing a new amp with 4k and hdr passthrough as the tv doesn't do dts sound. The sub has enough grunt in my living room so I'm happy to keep it
 
lucid said:
First thoughts turned to the Cambridge Audio Min 22 speakers for their wide dispersion and similar pricing to the 7000i speakers. However, they're even more bass-shy. Might still come back to them though for Atmos height duties.

Last time I looked, Monitor Audio Mass were on offer at a few places as the product is going end-of-life. These are hardly huge, but in common with the far more expensive Radius 90, they couple a decent bass driver with a high-grade tweeter to make a very effective mini monitor. Because the cabinet is about the size of a 2lb bag of sugar or flour then they're capable of getting down to 80Hz.
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I did try the Cambridge min22 a while ago (only the single version) and they were ok but the sub was in a different position (further away) which is what put me off as I was hearing the highs to much. Might try them again for atoms duties as the size is appealing.

Which ma mass product do you mean as there seems to be 2. One being an odd shape which I like the look off
 
darreny said:
I did try the Cambridge min22 a while ago (only the single version) and they were ok but the sub was in a different position (further away) which is what put me off as I was hearing the highs to much. Might try them again for atoms duties as the size is appealing.

Which ma mass product do you mean as there seems to be 2. One being an odd shape which I like the look off
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Go on to the MA site and look up MASS 5.0 It should be flagged as discontinued. The shape reminds me of B&O type design.
 
I'm chuckling here. Someone somewhere is reading a post just like the one above, where one poster is telling another how their sub is too small yadda yadda yadda and how they need a 12" 500W ported beast, and they're thinking

"The XYZ 12-500 is still a great sub for music but for modern action movies it is lacking"

There's always a bigger fish. :D
 
I have a 4 and 1 year old so don't need house shaking bass.
I'll try and demo the ma mass so maybe add another pair on the 5.0 then try the Cambridge on height duties
 
I've got the Q Acoustics i7000 speakers with a BK Gemini II sub in the far corner of the room.

Try telling my wife my setup is lacking bass.

For the vast majority of people, me included, a modest set up is more than sufficient.
 
barmyllama said:
I've got the Q Acoustics i7000 speakers with a BK Gemini II sub in the far corner of the room.

Try telling my wife my setup is lacking bass.

For the vast majority of people, me included, a modest set up is more than sufficient.
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They are decent subs, but they cant get that low so you are missing out on some low end.
 
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