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Think it was Cyprus a couple of years back a journalist exposed some government corrruption and ended up being blown up in her car. (or Malta maybe?)
Thinking of moving to Cyprus
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I don't think I've ever known so much negativity about the UK in my lifetime.
I'm definitely thinking that I should retire elsewhere. The country just feels like it's in a downward spiral and nobody has any idea how to fix it.
Unless you're in the 1% it's crap. I do OK but the weird thing is that when I started this job 18 years ago, I was on less than half the money I'm on now but felt absolutely loaded - even a few years later as well when I was paying a mortgage. Now I feel like it's a constant struggle to get ahead and that I'm being screwed left, right and centre.
Seeing the struggles that friends and family go through financially, with the NHS and schooling their kids is massively depressing.
I'm definitely thinking that I should retire elsewhere. The country just feels like it's in a downward spiral and nobody has any idea how to fix it.
Unless you're in the 1% it's crap. I do OK but the weird thing is that when I started this job 18 years ago, I was on less than half the money I'm on now but felt absolutely loaded - even a few years later as well when I was paying a mortgage. Now I feel like it's a constant struggle to get ahead and that I'm being screwed left, right and centre.
Seeing the struggles that friends and family go through financially, with the NHS and schooling their kids is massively depressing.
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Do something about it then.
Reality bites like that sometimes
A mafia expert has named 'the most corrupt country in the world'
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He told an audience at Hay-on-Wye: “If I asked you what is the most corrupt place on Earth you might tell me well it’s Afghanistan, maybe Greece, Nigeria, the South of Italy and I will tell you it’s the UK.
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Man of Honour
You don't need to speak Turkish. Greek does help though, certainly breaks down barriers.
Things are quite bureaucratic there unless you know how to play the system.
Cost of living is good there. The food is amazing. Driving standards are awful. Good healthcare. Things are slow don't expect things to happen quickly. Things like Amazon will feel like a luxury because it doesn't really work there.
Happy to give you some ideas and tips as a semi local if you want @Dr House
I'm also planning my escape if I can.
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Man of Honour
Dr.House are you British, or are you an EU citizen? Post Brexit this is very important as it impacts the ease with which you can emigrate and find work within the EU.
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(I don't have the inclination or the skills to do so and it's not him)
Man of Honour
It is stable but the ongoing illegal occupation of turkey doesn't help. It has it's own stock exchange, is a good tax (not haven but zone).
It is a quiet socialising country with a rich culture and slow pace of life. Lots of start ups there etc... However some things are devoid of competition. Like utilities for example. Buying land as a non local is possible but you won't be able to buy as much land.
It's not a booming economy but it does ok, low unemployment, and above average salaries for Europe. It's an advanced economy rather than developing.
It's not without it's problems and can be frustrating. Some of the infrastructure is sensible and works well. Some of it is just badly from executed. It can be chaotic. But food is cheap, and cost of living is agreeable.
Soldato
Living somewhere and holidaying somewhere are two completely different experiences. Most of us only know the holiday resorts of other countries. experienced the holiday lifestyle and of course it feels better; else why would you and millions of others go on holiday there.
Personally I too would like to immigrate but not until I (if ever) have the finances not to have to work or at least not have to rely on my career for an income and I could work in a local job and still have a good standard of living. There's won't be that many roles for my career field let alone high paying ones in my specialist area. I may be a case of getting short term contracts to make a living in the same career and then I most likely have to spend more time looking for work than actually doing it.
So it's likely going to be a career switch for me.
Heck, I don't even like that I have to travel 2 junctions down the motorway to go in to the office, let alone having to catch regular flights back and forth to the UK.
Life is what you make of it and judging by the OPs past experiments, they may be better trying to find inner peace with themselves.
Personally I too would like to immigrate but not until I (if ever) have the finances not to have to work or at least not have to rely on my career for an income and I could work in a local job and still have a good standard of living. There's won't be that many roles for my career field let alone high paying ones in my specialist area. I may be a case of getting short term contracts to make a living in the same career and then I most likely have to spend more time looking for work than actually doing it.
So it's likely going to be a career switch for me.
Heck, I don't even like that I have to travel 2 junctions down the motorway to go in to the office, let alone having to catch regular flights back and forth to the UK.
Life is what you make of it and judging by the OPs past experiments, they may be better trying to find inner peace with themselves.
I am but it's not simple/easy when you're not on your own.
I'm targeting 2027.
Plugging some CV holes.
Lots of research to do.
Just thinking of the amount Of **** around the house I'd have to sell. Is bad enough!
I've lived and worked abroad - you're absolutely right. Wherever you go, it will have its problems and difficulties to overcome. It's just that in the past decade, we've hit a trend where the balance is being tipped so far that it's hard to ignore (we all know who to thank). Won't be long before you get a better quality of life in Soweto than in parts of the UK.
Like I said in another thread - if you're young and have good skills that are in demand, seriously consider getting out. Even if it doesn't end up being permanent, it's worth trying because it's great life experience and great for confidence in yourself and your abilities. An employer that wants you will make it happen with sponsorship/visa.
I'm in my "winding-down" phase so really don't want to work abroad. Problem is you're then looking at expensive visas or other restrictions. Needs a lot of thought (or a hell of a lot more money).
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Soldato
"Life - It's the **** that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come." - Lestor Freamon
(I paraphrased a little)
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I have a better life now than I ever have. But it's only because I've out earned the decline and have quite a low cost base.
For the average person with kids, some fiance, probably too big a mortgage really, huge inflation and having to rely on public services it must have gotten worse.. Ie not just feels worse. But is.
I guess a lot of it is shown in a way that people tick off the big life things later. I'd look away from people having kids later. As that can be confounded with more people not wanting a family (although can be due to costs).
But from my peer group everyone still wants to own a home. And this is just getting later and later all the time.
Pensions and health care, (biggest 2)
Also councils going bust, private but should be public companies failing, inflation, etc etc. All seems like it's going backwards for the average person.
But maybe every generation thinks this?
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That was definitely Malta.
Cyprus is not a place I would move to. I had a girlfriend from there though she was from the Turkish part; which highlights one of the reasons I wouldn't want to make it my home. That and when I was there last year I came across far too many rude Russians!
If OP does insist on moving somewhere like that then I'd much rather move to Crete as it's nearer, the whole island is Greek and it's easier to get farther away from the mass tourist areas.
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Soldato
Isn't Cyprus full of Russians with all those cheap residency rules?
I'm 38 so there's time, but it needs to be now.
I (as I always do) left it too late really. If when I broke up with my ex did it then, that would have been the time.
Now I'm overburden with commitments (not enough to block it) but it's "late".
I can't just "retire" obviously.
Damn dog makes it difficult too. Especially new Zealand!
Maybe it would be better to look to Southern Europe and learn a language?
My heart is set on NZ. But I really want somewhere drier, where I can work permanently, where language isn't a barrier and less people. The population density in the UK drives me crazy.
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My original plan was to move to a smaller town in the South West which I'm still going to do in a phased manner (renting first for my WFH/non-work days, staying in London when I need to), but I can't ignore the crumbling public services in the UK. I'm not sure it's a long-term solution.
I don't think I have the brain capacity to learn any language with a funny alphabet so that limits my options!
Are you sure about NZ? You're going to be pretty isolated there. Plus Mags will be perched in a tree with binoculars, peeking through your bedroom window!
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I love isolation.My original plan was to move to a smaller town in the South West which I'm still going to do in a phased manner (renting first for my WFH/non-work days, staying in London when I need to), but I can't ignore the crumbling public services in the UK. I'm not sure it's a long-term solution.
I don't think I have the brain capacity to learn any language with a funny alphabet so that limits my options!
Are you sure about NZ? You're going to be pretty isolated there. Plus Mags will be perched in a tree with binoculars, peeking through your bedroom window!
Its not like I haven't lived it.
I see friends from lincs couple of times a year. And my parents same.
Really. Only social stuff I have is group walks at weekend. I never really go into town. As I just don't like it. I work at home full time and love that. Probably go to town (Cardiff) once every 2 months. Even though only live 25 mins drive from centre.
Grew up 14 miles from town in a village of 100 people and miss it vs the kids on scooters, the litter (the litter really gets to me, it's so grim) and general tatty area I live in now.
If I had a choice I'd live somewhere like that Christchurch on south island.
Don't mind a peeping mags. Would probably invite him in for tea and crumpet!
If I don't manage to move abroad I'll probably end up in somewhere like Aberystwyth. Only reason I'm not more isolated now is bought the house when WFH wasn't common.
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