Thinking of moving to Cyprus

[413x]

This is literally the same in NZs tourist hot spots.

Some of the more popular hiking spots, are very over crowded. Try getting to the bar in Queenstown!

Of course.

But nearly everywhere in the UK except for the depths of Scotland is populated. There isn't really anywhere that's devoid of human activity. Very little wilderness left.

Wales is much better than England. But it still doesn't have that "wild" feeling.

Human influence is literally everywhere in the UK. The loss of biodiversity here is extreme.

 

[adam cool dude]

Germany and France invested in robots and not jobs hence improved productivity at a cost. The UK was more about putting as many as possible into work.

Whatever we did we did it wrong. In the end Germany was a country that was split in half until 1989 and in a little over 30 years they have the strongest economy in Europe. Even only 20 years ago the average UK worker was earning several hundred Euro's per month more than our German equivalent. Fast forward to today and they are earning several hundred Euro's per month more.

Our earnings are also vastly skewed by London when you look at the earnings of the average person we will be on levels similar to previous second world countries like the Baltics, Poland etc within the next ten years.

 

[jeffk]

Of course.

But nearly everywhere in the UK except for the depths of Scotland is populated. There isn't really anywhere that's devoid of human activity. Very little wilderness left.

New Zealand isn’t all that much different to Wales. Unless you want to live up a mountain on the South Island, there isn’t much true wilderness left. All of the wilderness areas are managed.

 

[potatolord]

Yeah mid Wales (from south snowdonia all way down do Brecon and most of powys is fairly sparse.

Obviously places like pen-y-fan get busy in summer. But not too bad in winter.

Tenby, snowdon, etc.. Avoid especially in peak season.

Thank goodness for the dire transport network! Keep the English out!

(yes I'm English)

Powys is over 20% of land area of wales, with under 5% of the population.

And a lot of that 5% lives in four or five towns.

 

[413x]

New Zealand isn’t all that much different to Wales. Unless you want to live up a mountain on the South Island, there isn’t much true wilderness left. All of the wilderness areas are managed.

Its like Wales.. But more.
Bigger mountains, cleaner water, drier (on east coast), less people. Etc etc.



Bonus for me is it's English speaking.

 

[Uther]

Its like Wales.. But more.
Bigger mountains, cleaner water, drier (on east coast), less people. Etc etc.



Bonus for me is it's English speaking.

I thought it rained a lot in NZ?

 

[413x]

I thought it rained a lot in NZ?

Not having lived there I have no idea how accurate this is.

But it's showing faaaar less than west UK for east NZ.
West coast though. Insane rain!

 

[adam cool dude]

Its like Wales.. But more.
Bigger mountains, cleaner water, drier (on east coast), less people. Etc etc.



Bonus for me is it's English speaking.

The difference is you can get from Wales to mainland Europe in a jiffy. Although not NZ my brother emigrated to Aus in 1991 and if you like holidaying in your home country then it is fantastic. They have been abroad maybe a handful of times and they are not poor. The grass isn't always greener in that respect.

 

[413x]

The difference is you can get from Wales to mainland Europe in a jiffy. Although not NZ my brother emigrated to Aus in 1991 and if you like holidaying in your home country then it is fantastic. They have been abroad maybe a handful of times and they are not poor. The grass isn't always greener in that respect.

Definitely aware of that. Trying to cram in a lot of "this part of the world" breaks now. Norway, Greenland, etc etc. NZ is miles away from everything!

Although Indonesia Japan and north Korea are closer!

 

[jeffk]

Not having lived there I have no idea how accurate this is.

But it's showing faaaar less than west UK for east NZ.
West coast though. Insane rain!

Yeah, massive mountain range = rain shadow.

 

[Buddy]

OP my 2 cents;

The UK and the NHS is in a dire state but the grass isn't greener on the other side.

Stop locuming. Doesn't have great prospects with the way things are going (PAs/de-skilling/opportunities) you will find with no post grad training under your belt, you'll struggle to get decent work abroad (few assumptions there).

Locuming has its place but you need to commit to an area you enjoy and passionate about. Start training. Consultants just got a great pay rise.....

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Not having lived there I have no idea how accurate this is.

But it's showing faaaar less than west UK for east NZ.
West coast though. Insane rain!

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NZ on the whole has a warmer, more temperate climate than the UK. In Auckland it's rare to get above 28 -30 degrees in summer but equally unlikely to get below 5 - 7 degrees in winter (noting obvious weather patterns going over or below both). The South Island can be more extreme with very, very hot summer days and bitterly cold winter mornings.

 

[Freefaller]

OP my 2 cents;

The UK and the NHS is in a dire state but the grass isn't greener on the other side.

Stop locuming. Doesn't have great prospects with the way things are going (PAs/de-skilling/opportunities) you will find with no post grad training under your belt, you'll struggle to get decent work abroad (few assumptions there).

Locuming has its place but you need to commit to an area you enjoy and passionate about. Start training. Consultants just got a great pay rise.....

When you say grass isn't greener so you mean from a Medical Practitioner perspective or just in general?

 

[Buddy]

When you say grass isn't greener so you mean from a Medical Practitioner perspective or just in general?

In general. There are definitely much better prospects career-wise for doctors abroad. What op will find difficult is, well , he has no training. Assuming he's been locuming all his life.

I could post some graphs here on how we are hemorrhaging home-grown doctors to various countries/ or quitting to do other jobs, but that's for another thread.

 

[200sols]

lthough Indonesia Japan and north Korea are closer!

Yeah but not exactly short hops like Europe is here, heck UK to most of the USA, Canada, Caribbean etc is quicker than NZ to Tokyo for example. If you like travelling and seeing the world NZ doesnt seem like the best place to emigrate to.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

In general. There are definitely much better prospects career-wise for doctors abroad. What op will find difficult is, well , he has no training. Assuming he's been locuming all his life.

I could post some graphs here on how we are hemorrhaging home-grown doctors to various countries/ or quitting to do other jobs, but that's for another thread.

I would watch this movie graph and it is related so crack on, sir.

 

[Uther]

Yeah but not exactly short hops like Europe is here, heck UK to most of the USA, Canada, Caribbean etc is quicker than NZ to Tokyo for example. If you like travelling and seeing the world NZ doesnt seem like the best place to emigrate to.

I always thought people moved to NZ to get away from everywhere else.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Yeah but not exactly short hops like Europe is here, heck UK to most of the USA, Canada, Caribbean etc is quicker than NZ to Tokyo for example. If you like travelling and seeing the world NZ doesnt seem like the best place to emigrate to.

I can be in Raro, Fiji, Ozzie, Tahiti, and lots more in less than 5 hours so it seems we can all play "how does geography work?"

Regardless, anyone can be on the other side of the world from wherever they are in 24 hours or less.

 

[Freefaller]

In general. There are definitely much better prospects career-wise for doctors abroad. What op will find difficult is, well , he has no training. Assuming he's been locuming all his life.

I could post some graphs here on how we are hemorrhaging home-grown doctors to various countries/ or quitting to do other jobs, but that's for another thread.

Ah for doctors yes. But in general the grass is definitely greener than the UK's scorched earth.

As I said previously life is an adventure and if there's an opportunity to try something abroad I'd always suggest to go for it.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Schools are overcrowded and really not that good, so many feel they are pushed into paying for private school which is £18k to £25k PA. VAT is soon to be added on top

Have you tried looking for the best state schools in the best school districts? Or even move to a place that still has grammar schools? Would be a big saver for you