We are a service economy. We can't afford to pay people to produce unless it's high value.Again this is just stupid foresight by our government. If they invested in all those manufacturing hotspots like Yorkshire and the Northeast instead of focusing everything in one place in London and also one sector as in finance we wouldn't be in this mess. The population would be more spread out. The population of London and the Southeast is more than the whole of Yorkshire, East Midlands, Northeast, Northern Ireland and Wales combined!
Look at Germany. They have wealth all over the country and through many cities. Volkswagen was offered to the UK government for nothing and we rejected it. Instead we ran our own British car empire into the ground whilst also laying the groundwork and helping the Japanese dominate the world with theirs.
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This is literally the same in NZs tourist hot spots.
Some of the more popular hiking spots, are very over crowded. Try getting to the bar in Queenstown!
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Caporegime
That's not a great comparison although yes, Queenstown is manic if you go when everyone else does (pro tip: do not do this, go in off season). The population density of NZ is 20 per Km2 (51 people per mi2). The population density of the UK is 280 per Km2 (725 people per mi2).
To keep things vaguely on topic the population density in Cyprus is 136 per Km2 (353 people per mi2), so about half of the UK.
Caporegime
Germany and France have managed it just fine but the UK could have quite easily invested its finance in other parts of the country as well. It is the perfect industry for that.
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Soldato
Germany and France invested in robots and not jobs hence improved productivity at a cost. The UK was more about putting as many as possible into work.
Man of Honour
It's also a tiny island with people generally living on the coast or in Nicosia. Otherwise you could have many kilometres between you and your nearest neighbour. Small towns are small. There's more expansion in large cities than tiny towns.
The tourist traps are just that and people move there. Ayia Napa is a dump now (it used to be a hotel, a handful of villas and a little high street). Now it feels like chav central and other than the weather you feel you're in the UK.
Limassol is a very industrial town and almost the second capital, Paphos (pronounced Pah-fos, not Pah-thos, sorry bugbear of mine
) is again now just a tourist area, Nicosia is the capital and also where a lot of the work gets done but of course more crowded and chaotic. Larnaca is a blend of tourism and not but because it has a beach is still tourist heavy. The island is so small you can get anywhere within an hour or two. I mean Nicosia to Larnaca is 30 mins with no traffic. I have friends who commute to Limassol from Nicosia takes him less than an hour.
Life starts early as it's cooler and often things shut down for lunch and reopen in afternoon till later. However it's becoming more western with generally longer opening hours now.
As a Medical Doctor you'd have a lot of opportunity there but I don't know enough about the industry to know if you'll need to do any courses etc to convert or demonstrate capability. It's an EU country so will follow EU guidance (which is helpful as.it means you can move around the EU easily to do the same thing).
GPs are always busy there but far more efficient and effective than the UK. Healthcare in Cyprus is great. If ever I have a niggle whilst I'm out there I always go and they sort me right out. You get x-ray results same day and you actually keep a copy of it too. You can pretty much on a whim see any specialist from an ENT to a midwife to an Osteopath same day pretty much. Medical doctors can earn well over €400k in Cyprus depending on experience and seniority.
Man of Honour
But the Europeans will strike for better deals/pay as a result. And they revere their work life balance above all else.
Of course.
But nearly everywhere in the UK except for the depths of Scotland is populated. There isn't really anywhere that's devoid of human activity. Very little wilderness left.
Wales is much better than England. But it still doesn't have that "wild" feeling.
Human influence is literally everywhere in the UK. The loss of biodiversity here is extreme.
Caporegime
Whatever we did we did it wrong. In the end Germany was a country that was split in half until 1989 and in a little over 30 years they have the strongest economy in Europe. Even only 20 years ago the average UK worker was earning several hundred Euro's per month more than our German equivalent. Fast forward to today and they are earning several hundred Euro's per month more.
Our earnings are also vastly skewed by London when you look at the earnings of the average person we will be on levels similar to previous second world countries like the Baltics, Poland etc within the next ten years.
New Zealand isn’t all that much different to Wales. Unless you want to live up a mountain on the South Island, there isn’t much true wilderness left. All of the wilderness areas are managed.
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Powys is over 20% of land area of wales, with under 5% of the population.
And a lot of that 5% lives in four or five towns.
Its like Wales.. But more.
Bigger mountains, cleaner water, drier (on east coast), less people. Etc etc.
Bonus for me is it's English speaking.
Soldato
I thought it rained a lot in NZ?
Not having lived there I have no idea how accurate this is.
But it's showing faaaar less than west UK for east NZ.
West coast though. Insane rain!
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Caporegime
The difference is you can get from Wales to mainland Europe in a jiffy. Although not NZ my brother emigrated to Aus in 1991 and if you like holidaying in your home country then it is fantastic. They have been abroad maybe a handful of times and they are not poor. The grass isn't always greener in that respect.
Definitely aware of that. Trying to cram in a lot of "this part of the world" breaks now. Norway, Greenland, etc etc. NZ is miles away from everything!
Although Indonesia Japan and north Korea are closer!
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Yeah, massive mountain range = rain shadow.
OP my 2 cents;
The UK and the NHS is in a dire state but the grass isn't greener on the other side.
Stop locuming. Doesn't have great prospects with the way things are going (PAs/de-skilling/opportunities) you will find with no post grad training under your belt, you'll struggle to get decent work abroad (few assumptions there).
Locuming has its place but you need to commit to an area you enjoy and passionate about. Start training. Consultants just got a great pay rise.....
The UK and the NHS is in a dire state but the grass isn't greener on the other side.
Stop locuming. Doesn't have great prospects with the way things are going (PAs/de-skilling/opportunities) you will find with no post grad training under your belt, you'll struggle to get decent work abroad (few assumptions there).
Locuming has its place but you need to commit to an area you enjoy and passionate about. Start training. Consultants just got a great pay rise.....
Caporegime
NZ on the whole has a warmer, more temperate climate than the UK. In Auckland it's rare to get above 28 -30 degrees in summer but equally unlikely to get below 5 - 7 degrees in winter (noting obvious weather patterns going over or below both). The South Island can be more extreme with very, very hot summer days and bitterly cold winter mornings.
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