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Thinking of switching from Intel to AMD

Th0nt said:
Getting back on topic, once some (minority) of people accept the price of the product and stop comparing it to clearly way more expensive offerings then it puts all this into perspective.

I don't accept for one moment a 2500k 'rapes' or destroys it's mere drivel. When some of these games (no matter how badly they are released unfinished) with a patch and driver update they sometimes adjust certain flaws.
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If you are really "getting back on topic", I would like to point out it is not about "choosing between i5 and FX8 for a gaming PC", but "is it worthwhile to migrate from the i5 to the FX8"- the two are very different.

So we had some people mentioning moving from Intel to AMD FX8 didn't really notice performance loss (probably in the latest 8 cores games and using a single graphic card with GPU bounded results)- that's great, but they didn't really give anything showing performance increase neither.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
If you are really "getting back on topic", I would like to point out it is not about "choosing between i5 and FX8 for a gaming PC", but "is it worthwhile to migrate from the i5 to the FX8"- the two are very different.

So we had some people mentioning moving from Intel to AMD FX8 didn't really notice performance loss (probably in the latest 8 cores games and using a single graphic card with GPU bounded results)- that's great, but they didn't really give anything showing performance increase neither.
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The benches will tell us that. In games with 8 core/thread utilisation, I suspect the FX CPUs are going to show us an improvement over the 2500k. In such games, the bench reviews already show this. This will likely be propagated by Mantle especially in multi-GPU setups (latter remains to be seen).

Either way, the data is already in this forum with FX CPUs and various GPUs. I see a sparsity of data on i5 2500k CPUs and any GPU though... Maybe the folks in this thread are prepared to put some work in.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
If you are really "getting back on topic", I would like to point out it is not about "choosing between i5 and FX8 for a gaming PC", but "is it worthwhile to migrate from the i5 to the FX8"- the two are very different.

So we had some people mentioning moving from Intel to AMD FX8 didn't really notice performance loss (probably in the latest 8 cores games and using a single graphic card with GPU bounded results)- that's great, but they didn't really give anything showing performance increase neither.
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You also forgot to mention that the OP doesn't want to invest in an expensive intel and has stated that he would be prepared to do this switch. That is getting back on topic, if it was worthwhile would be his decision but once again ignoring the price point of the hardware is again overlooked. :rolleyes:

Considering that the topic seems to move off the sidegrade/upgrade and focus on for some reason how poorly the FX performs is what is getting blown out of all proportions. I myself would not change system, however some of the comments just don't tally up especially without something to back them up.

As is generally the case the poo poo-ers dont own an FX system to rubbish it. The two or three guys that do own both varieties would be best positioned to close the debate.
 
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Asked my son last nite if he wanted an upgrade from his 2500k and he said nope hes happy with it but he would like a new Graphics card.

But he does agree with me that my FX 8350 is loads better than his 2500k but would rather have a gpu at this time instead
 
As a post was made while I dug it out I didn't add to the edit. ^ Knew it was few pages ago.

rolypolyman said:
I don't buy there either, also a bad experience, also they are now £194.99, which was my point Intel are too expensive so the FX8320 is better value for me. :)
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SiDeards73 said:
I probably will switch early next year in all honesty, once crimbo is out of the way, im tempted to build a new pc and give this i5 to my son as the resale value would not get near the cost of just building a new rig. And i know this gears good so would do him well (hes only 5 and play cbeebies on my pc).
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Seems roly took over from SiDeards half-way through the thread. :o
 
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Th0nt said:
You also forgot to mention that the OP doesn't want to invest in an expensive intel and has stated that he would be prepared to do this switch. That is getting back on topic, if it was worthwhile would be his decision but once again ignoring the price point of the hardware is again overlooked. :rolleyes:

Considering that the topic seems to move off the sidegrade/upgrade and focus on for some reason how poorly the FX performs is what is getting blown out of all proportions. I myself would not change system, however some of the comments just don't tally up especially without something to back them up.
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The point is...if he's going AMD for the sake of "not spending as much", the (small) amount of extra performance (in 8 threaded games) is still not worth the move- it is like comparing an overclocked GTX680 to overclocked 7970, the overclocked 7970 will come out a bit faster. Would I recommend someone to "upgrade" from the GTX680 to a 7970 because he doesn't want to spend too much money? No. I would recommend him to up his budget or save up a bit more money, and stretch for at least a 290Pro or GTX780; or in this case, a i7 2600K/i7 3770K. It's not my fault that AMD at the moment doesn't have something that actually matches the i7's gaming performance (in non-GPU bounded circumstances) which I can recommend, like I could suggest the choice on graphic card between the 290Pro and GTX780.
 
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If I was doing a comparison.

I'd be doing minimum FPS, Average FPS, Maximum FPS (Although I think this one is pointless) and frame times.

As FPS by itself isn't always entirely the full story, we learnt that from AMD's 7XXX series.
 
alex_123_fra said:
Interesting from someone who litters their posts with phrases like "my cpu/gpu combo will rape any FX system" and false comparisons while not offering any evidence to back up his arguments.
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haha I was just thinking the same thing.

RAPE DESTROY etc. Hilarious stuff. A rape with no evidence :D
 
almighty15 said:
:rolleyes: You are a genius.... Why didn't I think of that.... Oh I remember.... So me and someone else can decide which benchmarks we would do :rolleyes:
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Seriously? You defy belief. We have mentioned countless times what sorts of benchmarks are already in the forum. Look in the 8320 thread and the BF4 thread. Just replicate those with your setup. Either way, you have a 2600k so I would expect it to be better than a 2500k especially with twin overclocked 7950s and especially in multithreaded games.

So go on, lets see your attempts. Should be pretty comparable as the 8320 benches are done with a 7990 (although that is at stock).
 
alex_123_fra said:
Seriously? You defy belief. We have mentioned countless times what sorts of benchmarks are already in the forum. Look in the 8320 thread and the BF4 thread. Just replicate those with your setup. Either way, you have a 2600k so I would expect it to be better than a 2500k especially with twin overclocked 7950s and especially in multithreaded games.

So go on, lets see your attempts. Should be pretty comparable as the 8320 benches are done with a 7990 (although that is at stock).
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No point in running anything in the Cinebench R15 thread as Intel are pretty much ruling every result, Don't have BF4 as I'm not a BF fan...

If anyone has an FX then drop me message we'll decide and run some benchmarks..
 
almighty15 said:
No point in running anything in the Cinebench R15 thread as Intel are pretty much ruling every result, Don't have BF4 as I'm not a BF fan...

If anyone has an FX then drop me message we'll decide and run some benchmarks..
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Holy miss the point Batman.

FX 8320 - £113
4670k - £170.

By price alone the AMD shouldn't be able to touch the 4670k in anything, yet it does. As for Intel "ruling" (another one of your silly comments) I should hope so. They cost enough to warrant it. Note for every one else back in reality though, they certainly don't rule when it comes to price.
 
alex_123_fra said:
Seriously? You defy belief. We have mentioned countless times what sorts of benchmarks are already in the forum. Look in the 8320 thread and the BF4 thread. Just replicate those with your setup. Either way, you have a 2600k so I would expect it to be better than a 2500k especially with twin overclocked 7950s and especially in multithreaded games.

So go on, lets see your attempts. Should be pretty comparable as the 8320 benches are done with a 7990 (although that is at stock).
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