Thinking of switching from Intel to AMD

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:38

teppic said:
He wants something new, he's interested in next gen performance with Mantle - there are perfectly good reasons for this change.

The tone of this thread you'd think he was replacing a 2500K with a 486.

By the time Mantle has anywhere near decent adoption there will be better chips from both vendors.

Switching from an AMD event is entirely pointless until it's out and about.

nikki5974 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:38

my personal experience having owned a i5 2500k that clocked 5ghz and above and going for an FX 8350 which is so much cheaper i did the right thing,if i had kept the i5 and gave my son this fx 8350 i would have kicked myself

SiDeards73 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:41

Will hold off any CPU / Mobo Upgrades i guess for a bit, atleast until we see if any further developments with Mantle favours AMD CPU's etc. Im really tempted though to go for the 8350 and a Sabretooth Mobo, its so cheap and i could sell my i5 gear for not much less.

First priority is a 290 pro, once the non refs are available, then wait out the BF4 Mantle patch and see if theres any optimization there for AMD Cpus, as people point out, going into the future, with AMD being in consoles, their chips might get a bit more coding love and if the balance tips in their favour i will definitely be jumping ship, but i guess for now i will just bank my dosh and bide my time until i know the lay of the land.

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:42

There's a few people in here who have tried the FX83 and not to go for it.

Just to even things up a little.

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:43

Marine-RX179 said:
So trading better performance (in sub 8-threaded games) at a cost for extra warranty? Interesting.

How many people sit and play old games and go "Oh look, my I5 was 20 FPS faster in this crusty old game. I really need that 20 FPS I've lost out of the 120 I'm getting".

I can't say it enough - nobody but nobody buys a bloody gaming PC to play an old game on. Gamers move on, they evolve. Right now I'm playing a mix of BF4, BF3 (because I started playing it again in the lead up to the BF4 release) Crysis 3 and the oldest game NFS MW.

I own pretty much every decent PC title worth having going back to 1998. Sadly the ones before that were on floppy disks so I binned them and opened an account with good old games.

But seldom do I play old games. Why? lol because put simply the new ones make them look as rough as a badger's arse.

So again, going AMD will only be an upgrade because in the last few (IE this entire year's) big releases the AMD is the better, faster CPU than the 2500k.

By your own logic and refusal to accept recent changes by the time the AMD would be worth having we'd all have grey hair :rolleyes:

nikki5974 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:43

SiDeards73 said:
Will hold off any CPU / Mobo Upgrades i guess for a bit, atleast until we see if any further developments with Mantle favours AMD CPU's etc. Im really tempted though to go for the 8350 and a Sabretooth Mobo, its so cheap and i could sell my i5 gear for not much less.

First priority is a 290 pro, once the non refs are available, then wait out the BF4 Mantle patch and see if theres any optimization there for AMD Cpus, as people point out, going into the future, with AMD being in consoles, their chips might get a bit more coding love and if the balance tips in their favour i will definitely be jumping ship, but i guess for now i will just bank my dosh and bide my time until i know the lay of the land.

Thread closed i guess the OP has spoken

move on nothing else to see here

teppic · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:45

Martini1991 said:
By the time Mantle has anywhere near decent adoption there will be better chips from both vendors.

Switching from an AMD event is entirely pointless until it's out and about.

It's only a month away for BF4 to get Mantle, and January for Thief. It's beside the point though. He said he wants to switch.

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:46

teppic said:
It's only a month away for BF4 to get Mantle, and January for Thief. It's beside the point though. He said he wants to switch.

OP says he's thinking about it.
And his last post says he's waiting now.

So it's far from beside the point.

teppic · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:47

Martini1991 said:
OP says he's thinking about it.
And his last post says he's waiting now.

So it's far from beside the point.

Stop point scoring. I posted that before reading his last post.

nikki5974 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:48

I think he will do the switch hes just said that hes staying put for now with his i5 to keep intel boys happy

SiDeards73 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:50

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:50

teppic said:
Stop point scoring. I posted that before reading his last post.

I'm not sure how to respond to that.

nikki5974 said:
I think he will do the switch hes just said that hes staying put for now with his i5 to keep intel boys happy

I thought it was only the Intel owners that were immature?

nikki5974 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:51

Martini1991 said:
I'm not sure how to respond to that.

you just did

Damn you and them ninja edits

nope im ex intel boy myself so im just as immature

SiDeards73 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:52

I probably will switch early next year in all honesty, once crimbo is out of the way, im tempted to build a new pc and give this i5 to my son as the resale value would not get near the cost of just building a new rig. And i know this gears good so would do him well (hes only 5 and play cbeebies on my pc).

Any word on future AMD cpus? those Steamrollers?

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:53

AM3+ is dead.
Steamroller 8 core's for desktop are currently dead.

Steamroller in 2014 is only coming in two and four core APU's.

nikki5974 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:54

But FX 83xx will last along time and when you would upgrade from an FX this will be a great replacement for your sons i5

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:55

Martini1991 said:
AM3+ is dead.
Steamroller 8 core's for desktop are currently dead.

Steamroller in 2014 is only coming in two and four core APU's.

X58 is dead 1155 is dead. 1156 is dead. 1150 is probably dead also.

The way things are headed an 8 core FX could be the last CPU you need for a bloody long time.

SiDeards73 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:55

oh

well that sucks, i like the idea of 8 cores

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:55

And an i7 would last just as long, if not longer with its higher total performance.

I can make assumptions too.

EDIT : At work again, so saw another one of ALX's posts.

X58 being dead means what exactly?
1156 , same thing.
1155 is dead, has been since Ivy launched on it.

1150 isn't dead, has a confirmed refresh (Whatever that entails, I'm not holding my breath) and who knows what'll happen with 14nm, it'll be dead after the refresh if it has nothing else planned.

Socket 2011, again, unsure, I'm pretty confident it's not taking Haswell-E, so as far as I'm aware, but the total performance potential is leagues ahead of everything else.

Martini1991 · 15 Nov 2013 at 12:59

SiDeards73 said:
oh well that sucks, i like the idea of 8 cores

I notice none of the AMD lads told you that while telling you to go to their platform of choice.

That's the bonus of being completely objective, knowing as many facts about as many of the platforms as possible.

AMD killing off Steamroller 8/6 core is a massive disappointment as far as I'm concerned, it's looking like they're going to jump to a DDR4 platform with Excavator (How that comes about for example, no one knows, they could do this while merging the APU and their higher end platform)

If we're lucky, they may toy with the idea of an FM2+ SR 8 core, but that's me grasping at straws, and it's unlikely to happen.