third party Am4 coolers

[Threepwood]

hey, are third party AM4 coolers fitted the same way as the AMD OEM ones?
for example the scythe cooler was just a screw on affair, but the spire had a god-awful hook over latch thing that was a pain to install, I ask because my son has an AM4 system that we are either going to overclock, the 1600x that it already has or get one of the am4 3dx cpus to go in there
I like to try overclocking it first, then both save a little while to try a beefy gpu with it at max overclock, but it is already a toasty cpu with the scythe on there,
I'd rather let him change the cooler under my supervision, so I'd prerfer a screw on one to make life easy on him, it will be his first cooler installation, and when I installed a spire on my oldAM system, I found it really frustrating,
thanks

 

[Threepwood]

They are installed to the backplate as standard you remove them to fit the screw type.

the rectangles on the top of the plate on the front face, the spire had a thin piece of metal that went through the cooler, that thin flat piece of metal has a cut out rectangle at one end that has to hook over one of the plates retangles, then there is a lever to tighten the whole thing up and put some pressure on the mating face, really annoying, his pc has the screw in scythe, so I'm hoping that it will be all ready for a replacement screw in aftermarket am4 cooler, as long as the cooler is designed to be screwed on, hence the question

 

[Threepwood]

If you think the spire is bad
I remember in the old days
Was similar

yeah, I used to have a huge air cooler on my 2500k, can't remember the name now, trying to get that beast on without taking the board out was a nightmare, because you had to use the included spanner

 

[Threepwood]

I’d not bother oc’ing a first gen Ryzen 1600x - you’re not going to see much in the way of improvements for your efforts.

yeah, I mightjust put any extra cooler money towards a 3d chip, or the 5600x

 

[Threepwood]

5600X.

good shout man, I had not thought about simply putting a first gen better cpu in there, i'll be checking a well kniown auction site now! brilliant!
thank you

 

[Threepwood]

All the AM4 coolers i have used have been screw in type.

The only one that has been a bit awkward is the Liquid Freezer III.

What cooler was you thinking of getting?

Here is a example video, think all of these kind use the original motherboard backplate.

Thanks a lot freddie, this fills me with hope,
I don't know what cooler yet
all that I really want is for it to be easy for my son, so he gets a cean experience with changing a cooler, I've seen him do everything now, except drop a motherboard into a case, drop a cpu into a socket, or attempt to clean up cables, he's not the neatest of people, but he can do a screw up/out,
so, some time soon, I''l get him a new cpu and cooler for him to learn with. I'm wondering how cool the5700x3d is now, maybe we could reuse the wraith stealth on it.
Anyway, cheers buddy, I appreciate you

 

[Threepwood]

5600x isn't a first gen CPU - it's a fairly recent chip you can still buy brand new!

ah, I didn't realise it was a new but still am4 cpu, , I was thinking that it wasjust the next model up from the 1600x,
tha from around the same time.
Thanks.