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Interview tomorrow for the local hybrid job.

Need to check my suit still fits since it's the first time I've worn it in 6 years. Will spend today preparing and pouring over their financial statements.
 
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Had an interview on Friday, which featured an technical test. Even though the job title said it was an Cloud Engineer role, it turned out to be an DevOps role.

I hate it when they cant tell the difference between an Cloud Engineer and DevOps Engineer :mad:
 
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It’s hard work out there job seeking in tech at the moment, I’m really struggling, just to even get a reply from a recruiter feels like a huge win.

The market is absolutely flooded with candidates.

I’m gonna hold off for a while and focus on expanding my GitHub repo with personal projects I can show off if somebody ever decides to talk to me lol.
 
DevOps engineer in one company isn't the same as another company so it's no surprise that Cloud Engineer varies too. How would you define Cloud Engineer vs DevOps engineer?

Even in the same company I've seen people with very similar responsibilities and three different titles (Cloud Eng, SRE, SWE).
 
Lethal` said:
DevOps engineer in one company isn't the same as another company so it's no surprise that Cloud Engineer varies too. How would you define Cloud Engineer vs DevOps engineer?

Even in the same company I've seen people with very similar responsibilities and three different titles (Cloud Eng, SRE, SWE).
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The main difference in DevOps they focus on coding in the cloud infrastructure, hence the word "Dev" being short for developer. They deal with code, build and production.

While a cloud engineer would deal with supporting and maintaining the cloud infrastructure. They wont be developing or coding anything.

But companies and recruiters get them mixed together. While the big tech companies such as Microsoft, Amazon and Google. Have a clear blueprint defining them both.
 
malachi said:
While a cloud engineer would deal with supporting and maintaining the cloud infrastructure. They wont be developing or coding anything.
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I've spent a lot of time writing code, among other things, to automate and improve operations of hybrid cloud infrastructure as a Cloud Engineer :)
In the same role I'd maintain pipelines for shipping code to environments globally and develop gitops flows for other operations.
DevOps engineers may find themselves building services in the cloud too... they shouldn't be blind to the underpinnings.

It really is different from team to team, company to company. We just have to evaluate on a case by case basis. It's a shame job descriptions are often not descriptive enough.
 
Lethal` said:
I've spent a lot of time writing code, among other things, to automate and improve operations of hybrid cloud infrastructure as a Cloud Engineer :)
In the same role I'd maintain pipelines for shipping code to environments globally and develop gitops flows for other operations.
DevOps engineers may find themselves building services in the cloud too... they shouldn't be blind to the underpinnings.
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Yeah, in pretty much any infrastructure role these days, whether it's cloud or whatever - you pretty much need to code, or at a minimum - be able to do basic scripting and stuff.
 
So an interesting one for me... Been offered an interview for a role at my existing company. It's managing a test lab (large range of devices, regular test routines, device certification etc). I'm currently in the software team but prior to that worked under the hiring manager for this role, in the test team.

I'm not 100% sure I want to leave the software team - I like the subject matter and the people, just don't feel super talented as a developer. Whereas I have ideas for how to improve the lab, expand, make it run better etc. So I'm really unsure if I want this shift, it would involve going from mostly home working to full time in office, lots of differences in the work itself and the environment.

The way I see it is, going through the interview process should help me work out if I want to make the move or not.

The question is, if I get offered the role, and I decide not to take it for either personal preference or even something like the pay not meeting my expectations, will this lead to bad feeling from my colleagues? Turning them down for a role they want me for, but remaining in the wider team. We're not a huge company, only about 100 total and 40% of that is the technology department.

Open to people's perspectives on this as I might need to navigate the situation where I say thanks but no thanks, I'd rather stay over here with this other role :D
 
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After talking to the hiring manager yesterday, feeling a lot more positive about the role and the company than I was last week. There's a salary increase, not a huge one but an increase, and the market here is not as mature & competitive for my industry, so I wasn't expecting an enormous leap.

Currently sat waiting for my boss to actually join my 121 so I can tell him.....
 
Last day of the contact started early.. online working at 2am to get some final stuff finished. Still got one thing but it needs discussion.
It was a good experience, 6 months as CTPO, the org has it's fair challenges but succeeded in stabilising so my time is done. I surprised them by handing in my resignation a month ago, they are backfilling and I got some nice messages through over the last few days - even a "if you don't like the new role... you can always come back here." from the boss.

Next a week of DIY....

Then I start in the new FTE role as a cloud product manager in a group company that owns a number of large well known companies :) The interview was a barrel of laughs - I had the last interview via video call whilst testing positive for covid later that day and ending up bedridden for the week after. Sounds like they liked the brought in, sort crap out experience in a number of very large orgs.

Looking forward to it. Just need to get through this final day.. already on second coffee this morning.
 
Struggling to get interviews at the moment after being a business owner for 7 years. One recruiter saying I didn't have enough hands on platform experience... despite auditing, planning and managing over 40 projects using said systems :o I understand the stigma though.
 
shifty_uk said:
Struggling to get interviews at the moment after being a business owner for 7 years. One recruiter saying I didn't have enough hands on platform experience... despite auditing, planning and managing over 40 projects using said systems :o I understand the stigma though.
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It's hard out there at the moment,

Most jobs have large numbers of people applying for limited positions, you're not alone in struggling,
 
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