This Business and Moment...

randomshenans said:
I've just had the official "your job is likely to be impacted" - i.e. we're probably going to **** you off :D soz.

Bless my boss, she did not want to do that but it's business innit. The risk of not getting this head of product ops role last time was that this would happen, so you know. There are over 40 engineers impacted, too. So it's a large culling.

I have been given a list of jobs to apply for (should I want, which I will to play the game) and will find out about April time whether I get anything from that, and if not, I'll be in line for the official steps to get rid of me.

I could have to play the game, and if I get a sense that this is happening, it's all very stressful and causes people to get super sick. Which is covered for up to 2 years. I just need a doctors note... so you know.

Getting rid of anyone here is long though, so it'll be probably end of the year even if I wasn't sick from it.

I felt for my boss delivering the news. I was like, don't stress for me. It's all good. It will come to what it comes to and I appreciate your empathy, but you don't need to worry for me.

It's quite an exciting feeling tbf! Never thought I'd say that in this situation ha
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Fully - one time I eas made redundant I was quite happy and was trying to tale my boss through it being in the receiving end. Only for last year, after 20 odd years in the place, to find they kicked her tole too.

Company I was at before this place (contract) was shocked when I moved on and resigned - given I was there for 6m, completed the role I was hired for successfully and they had budget issues.. it wouln’t have been long before it would have been a problem.

This role.. all pointers point to they will dissolve the unit, the entire fiasco was described as “complex” (read simple) but we don’t want people leaving in droves until we can complete the project and their performance reviews all put them in the chopping block.
People seem stressed, when I don’t thing those in the unit would have any problem in finding a new role. I find it funny the long tenure people get worries, accept bad treatment ans wonder why they get moves around (and so things don’t inprove).
The board have a staff survey that is crushing to read, to the point I think they will cut their losses and just partner/saas everthing.. can’t beat em/hire ‘em then join ‘em.
 
NickK said:
. I find it funny the long tenure people get worries
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Comfort is the devil and change is scary.
A lot of people like the cosy lives and don't give a hoot about being passed over, pushed to different roles, just pressing buttons for 8hrs a day for 50yrs. They're good with that.

I just think I need more than that. Both are fine.

I said to my boss I'd rather not work here than have only SOPs to sift through each day which is not at all where I think there is any value add for me. Would I have taken it for an easy life? Sure, but then it'd not be true to me. This is far better and forces you to do something different, which is the best part.
 
Being told I was at risk of redundancy was one of the best things to happen to me career wise. It gave me the prompt to go and look for a job at another company (it was the only place I'd worked since graduating) which I wouldn't have done otherwise as I'd only changed roles about 6 months prior. Also means you can just openly make/take phonecalls about other jobs in the office and attend interviews without booking time off. Maybe les relevant nowadays with people working from home and video interviews.

In the end, they realised they couldn't just get rid of my entire department (it was following an acquisition by a bigger company) as the whole business would have ground to a halt, so the redundancies didn't happen, but I'd already left by that point. It was clear there was very little understanding about what we actually did and thought that our work could simply be subsumed by some central services team.

edit: oh and the hilarious thing was, my department found out via the intranet portal of our parent company. They put up a statement about our satellite office being at risk before anyone had spoken to us. Cue some hastily-arranged HR meetings :D
 
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Monday is the day I either get a new offer, or severance letter.

It's expected base salary will be the same or better, we lose car allowance, but gain a higher bonus %, plus a hefty amount of RSUs. I know RSUs are plastic money until they vest, but the amount I'm expecting should very nearly clear the mortgage in 4 years.

Or I get made redundant, but get given 6 months to live off while I find a new job.
 
You got to love this though. The day after being told I'm getting canned... I'm in a 2hour workshop to define my teams objectives for the year on a ******* miro board.

I put "under the circumstances I think this is pretty much a pointless exercise for me, I could put a lot of stuff but it really would just be doing it for the sake of it as it means nothing"
 
ChrisD. said:
Monday is the day I either get a new offer, or severance letter.

It's expected base salary will be the same or better, we lose car allowance, but gain a higher bonus %, plus a hefty amount of RSUs. I know RSUs are plastic money until they vest, but the amount I'm expecting should very nearly clear the mortgage in 4 years.

Or I get made redundant, but get given 6 months to live off while I find a new job.
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Good luck pal, seen a lot of people go already unfortunately, but hope you get whichever decision you want. Big changes in the company and it'll be an interesting year for them.
 
randomshenans said:
Whichever you get, hope it works out for what you want. It's a ******* when you're not prepared for this stuff
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Cheers. We've known it's been on the cards since March(?) 2022, and confirmed around 45 days ago. Unfortunately my sector is pretty quiet recruitment wise at the moment, and with a mortgage to pay and mouths to feed I don't really want to take an unnecessary risk otherwise I'd be refusing the offer and taking severance, then take my chances. I'm be shocked if I'm not offered a role on Monday but who knows.
 
ChrisD. said:
Cheers. We've known it's been on the cards since March(?) 2022, and confirmed around 45 days ago. Unfortunately my sector is pretty quiet recruitment wise at the moment, and with a mortgage to pay and mouths to feed I don't really want to take an unnecessary risk otherwise I'd be refusing the offer and taking severance, then take my chances. I'm be shocked if I'm not offered a role on Monday but who knows.
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Not sure how your vRA skills are, but my inbox is lighting up with vRA contracts at the moment.
 
ChrisD. said:
Monday is the day I either get a new offer, or severance letter.

It's expected base salary will be the same or better, we lose car allowance, but gain a higher bonus %, plus a hefty amount of RSUs. I know RSUs are plastic money until they vest, but the amount I'm expecting should very nearly clear the mortgage in 4 years.

Or I get made redundant, but get given 6 months to live off while I find a new job.
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Offer later came through, pretty much as expected in terms of the overall deal. Is it too early for Champagne?
 
Interesting 1:1.. not sure if the conversation hinted my boss is worried I’m leaving :D

I resisted in saying ambiguity is multifaceted.. and looking like a guru on a cloud stroking his white beard.

I have been told to worry less about the technology team now we’re in the end delivery and start thinking about longer term.. challenge accepted..
 
Employed someone via agency as a water hygiene technician. He seemed nice enough, answered my technical questions well enough. He started last Monday.

Monday this week, no show. 11:30 I get a text - "sorry I had an appointment".

Tuesday no show again, 13:00 a text message "I'll be back in tomorrow".

Today, no show. I text him, call him, no response. Eventually I speak to the his agency and cancel his employment, so the agency obviously calls him to tell him.

Not 5 minutes later I get a call from him. Now he's got a cold. I tell him I've cancelled his employment and this begins an afternoon of text messages basically apologizing and begging and how much he loved working here and yadda yadda.

I've cancelled his pass and informed security, he can come in tomorrow to collect his tools and be off with it.

Shame really as he seemed like a nice enough chap, but I really can't be arsed chasing people who can't be bothered to turn up for work.
 
Diddums said:
Employed someone via agency as a water hygiene technician. He seemed nice enough, answered my technical questions well enough. He started last Monday.

Monday this week, no show. 11:30 I get a text - "sorry I had an appointment".

Tuesday no show again, 13:00 a text message "I'll be back in tomorrow".

Today, no show. I text him, call him, no response. Eventually I speak to the his agency and cancel his employment, so the agency obviously calls him to tell him.

Not 5 minutes later I get a call from him. Now he's got a cold. I tell him I've cancelled his employment and this begins an afternoon of text messages basically apologizing and begging and how much he loved working here and yadda yadda.

I've cancelled his pass and informed security, he can come in tomorrow to collect his tools and be off with it.

Shame really as he seemed like a nice enough chap, but I really can't be arsed chasing people who can't be bothered to turn up for work.
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The old thing of - if you’re ill just say and be ill… certainly don’t play battleships.

Got this job and the VC interview and I apologised about sounding ill. That afternoon test positive for covid - communicated that and when the agent phoned for good news I was in bed sounding like Barry White.

What I can’t fathom is people not communicating.. even if ill. Hospital I can understand..
 
Diddums said:
Employed someone via agency as a water hygiene technician. He seemed nice enough, answered my technical questions well enough. He started last Monday.

Monday this week, no show. 11:30 I get a text - "sorry I had an appointment".

Tuesday no show again, 13:00 a text message "I'll be back in tomorrow".

Today, no show. I text him, call him, no response. Eventually I speak to the his agency and cancel his employment, so the agency obviously calls him to tell him.

Not 5 minutes later I get a call from him. Now he's got a cold. I tell him I've cancelled his employment and this begins an afternoon of text messages basically apologizing and begging and how much he loved working here and yadda yadda.

I've cancelled his pass and informed security, he can come in tomorrow to collect his tools and be off with it.

Shame really as he seemed like a nice enough chap, but I really can't be arsed chasing people who can't be bothered to turn up for work.
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No one has time for time wasters. It's not hard to pick up the phone.
 
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Christ he still won't leave me alone and seems to think I can't dismiss him because he was unwell.

Do people like this really think that by continuously pestering their former employers that we're suddenly going to go "ah yeah ok mate cya in the morning" :confused:

I was really torn earlier as he seemed a decent chap but he's managed to **** me off enough to ensure he never sets foot in this place again and he can whistle for a reference too.
 
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