THIS MIGHT SAVE YOUR COMPUTERS LIFE

I've never bought static wrist bands. Seriously, if you take care and don't put hardware on cloth of some sort you'll be fine (hell putting it on cloth usually doesn't cause a problem).
 
Chocki said:
Someone who does not know all his facts!.

Electrostatic discharge can cause a current flow that is not significant enough to cause total failure, but in use may intermittently result in gate leakage causing software malfunction or incorrect storage of information.

Next time you are flying, just consider the above.

At Lucas we ALWAYS use anti static straps due to the above scenario, if a component always immediately failed when subject to ESD, then it would be detected during testing, but it's the partially damaged scenario you don't ever want.

The same applies to PC components, so always use an anti-static wrist strap.
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If handling IC's in a assembly line then yes wear a band. But you don't need one installing a videocard. Ground yourself, then touch non metal part of the PCB.
 
Its a good idea to use a wrist band if you have it, but you can always build near a radiator or something and give it a tap every time before you pick a component up. That will discharge any static on your person.

Also try to handle any circuit board by the edges, like you do a CD or DVD. Should be fine then.
 
sandman06 said:
i think someone should create a sticky on what not to do to your pc.
like what can cause your PC to break

or maybe a how to build a pc thread...since we already have one for how to overclock
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are u on commission? i havent ever had a problem and ive built, touched and messed with a LOT of kit, inc mine, my mates, and other PC's.
 
squiffy said:
If handling IC's in a assembly line then yes wear a band. But you don't need one installing a videocard. Ground yourself, then touch non metal part of the PCB.
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If you are doing a lot of work - Indeed.
As I stated above, for a swap of this or that - Grounding is fine.
squiffy said:
Our business is electronics repair.
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So you spend all day repairing electronic equipement...

What's the difference between working on an IC fab line or continually handling electronic components all day?

This is why I do all the work to my own PC. ;)
 
I bought a wrist band and found that it was a PITA. Trying to route cables nicely while you are attached to a radiator by a piece of springy cable is not particularly convenient.

To avoid static, keep things in the anti-static bags they came in until you actually put them in you PC. Put the PSU in the case first and attach it to the mains (don't turn it on!), touching the case will then ground you through the mains earth. Simple as. Don't jump around on a nylon carpet and you'll be fine.
 
wrist bands are for queers ...earth yourself and don't do any michael jackson moonwalks whilst working with your components and i think you'll come out the other end just fine :)
 
I usually touch the copper pipe on the radiator to discharge. I also avoid rubbing against things too much etc.

Although one time i used a speaker cable connected to the copper pipe. I could either touch the other end of the cable or attach it to something made of metal... then i realised it was a bit pointless.
 
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I use anti-static gloves, work like a charm, never had a problem with them, never grounded myself either.
 
If your going to build a new PC build it on a desk or unit, not on a carpet, but you know what I mean. Think you have static? touch metal.
 
Ive been building pcs for 11-12 years now, and ive never used a wrist band. My routine before starting a build is to touch the tap in the bathroom, then the radiator in my room to make sure ive been earthed. Then once the PSU is in, I switch the plug off at the wall, but leave the cable in. I can then periodically touch the case to make sure any statci is discharged.
 
What a load of cack. I thought something interesting was going to happen. You've just wasted 9 minutes of my life. Thanks a lot.

Apart from having fingers like sledge hammers, I dont see any problem with it. I've been building PC's for years and never used an anti static strip. Admittadely I've dont shuffle my feet around the room in trainers before touching my electrical components either.
 
This thread is quite priceless.

I've been building PCs for years and done electronics with lots of different ICs, modern chips are far more resistant to static and general battering. I used to rub the hell out of chips aswell as throw them around the room and bend the pins, they all worked perfectly afterwards (not CPUs, but simple CMOS chips for electronic devices).

There of course is always a risk of static damage which is why businesses building computers make you use the bands incase something does happen, but it is highly unlikely that something will. The only time I fried a chip was because I fired more than the normal volts through it the wrong way. :D

InvG
 
I'll admit there is a benefit from wearing an anti static strap and that if I were working on other peoples machines then I would. But I've never used one and never had a problem. I do, however, ground myself either on a nearby radiator or leave the power cable in (turned off) and touch the case.
 
I saw both parts of the vid... that guy is so retarded (I hate using that word, in fact I have never used that word before but it fits this guy perfectly).
 
Oh dear :rolleyes: can't really think of much more to say about that vid..

With regards to esd...

Chances are you will not damage anything, even if you do shuffle your feet, rub your componants on a balloon, take a hoover to them... but there is still that chance...

20000v is a visable discharge, 5000v you can feel, 20v 'could' damage a componant... A+ man... back to basics... bleh

To be honest, i haven't used an antistatic wristband for any of my home bui;t computers, but i do use cardboard and antistatic bags to sheild my componants from esd, but thats about all... Now, when i was working for an ibm partner, i would partly build anywhere up to 100 pc's a day, and this was done with wristband/mat/anything to prevent damage, which is, to be fair, the correct thing to do as the pc's aren't yours, most people will argue that esd does squat and 999 times out of 1000 you wil probably be fine... still doesn't mean the next build won't be that infamous 1 in a thousand...

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I think this somes everything up to be honest :D
 
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I have never used an anti-static band. I have never killed any component. I always touch a radiator before getting started. I will not be buying a band any time soon.

fini
 
Cant say ive ever used one, i always make sure to touch the psu before i handle anything, and if im just whipping a card out ill ill pick it up from edges :D

0 dead components here!
 
An AS wrist band can to cause more damage than good!! I have seen many people drop components when the annoying strap gets in the way.

Far better to ensure you have a good earth @ the socket and then simply work on the PC whilst it's still plugged in but switched off @ the PSU. Touching the metal casing will earth any static voltage and provided you don't do the moon walk in certain shies/slippers/socks your not going to build up anymore, and even if you did touching the metal case of your PC whilst working on it will ensure all voltage is grounded.
 
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Is he the product of a goblin and an ogre, coz damn he's ugly :p prolly why he's so stupid too... I mean look at the way he was handling them.. he may as well just throw be throwing them about... I mean as a general rule I try never to touch the actual pcbs.
 
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